found these guys and saw their prices. they are the cheapest I have found anywhere. I became immediately suspicious, but figured it would be worth a shot. I got my order in less than 1 week, and both items have proven their effectiveness. they lost points on ease of use and customer service because the site is a bit cumbersome, and it took 2 days to get a response from them. (by the time they answered the shipment was here.) Will most certainly order again.