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  1. I worked with a Women who got into a car accident who had a lot of back issues and she got addicted to the pain killers. She was on large amounts of pain killers but would function just like she was sober.
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  2. FWIW, I and many other members find alumni's posts to be most informative.
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    I agree with you @Blackbird123, alumni is a solid, long term member in good standing who offers a unique perspective on addiction and recovery.

    To suggest this member is not wanted on the forum is not an accurate reflection of the majority of members and frankly a quite harsh assessment.

    I can only speak for myself,but, I feel alumni has been asset to this forum and helped numerous members.
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    @File Error 500 honey - I have to laugh when someone gets so upset at a person and takes so personally what they are saying.

    If I told you the number of times @alumni has insinuated I was a drug addict because I take 2-3 1mg. Xanax a day for the last 25 years, well you would probably flip your lid. There is never a need to call out anyone by name. Just let your cooler head prevail, wait it out and move on.

    Jeez have you met @billyboy? LOL, you would love him...Alumni has nothing on Billyboy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by steve12345 View Post
    I worked with a Women who got into a car accident who had a lot of back issues and she got addicted to the pain killers. She was on large amounts of pain killers but would function just like she was sober.
    Once you become acclimated to any amount of narcotic dosage, you can function perfectly fine. I've been taking pain pills for a number of years and I no longer feel any sort of "high" or decrease in abilities due to their presence.
    F**k the DEA

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    Jeez have you met @billyboy? LOL, you would love him...Alumni has nothing on Billyboy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mecha View Post
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    If I told you the number of times @alumni has insinuated I was a drug addict because I take 2-3 1mg. Xanax a day for the last 25 years, well you would probably flip your lid.
    Jeez have you met @billyboy? LOL, you would love him...Alumni has nothing on Billyboy.
    Really? If I insinuated that I was off-base.
    Anyone who would stay on that low dose of a benzo for 25 years is hardly an "addict."
    Although a drug like Xanax is typically recommended for short term treatment, there are lots of people like you who can use it responsibly for years if it doesn't escalate into negative behavioral results.
    I've posted many times about the huge
    majority of chronic pain patients (usually now being treated by pain management clinics) who successfully remain on the same medication for years, even with some level of tolerance, and never develop any symptoms of addiction.
    That's the sad part of this current over-reaction underway regarding prescription drugs. Medical regulations have never been very nuanced. It's been "look the other way" or "use a sledgehammer." Problems have resulted either way.
    By the way, I didn't think I was very good at insinuating stuff. On the contrary, I've often been told the opposite.
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    Also, whatever happened to that @billyboy poster anyway?
    Last I saw he was in some debate about whether watching too much porn caused erectile dysfunction.
    I remember he was a really good resource regarding tax and estate planning questions.

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    @File Error 500

    I'm glad to see another person who is strong enough to be who she is and not feel any less of herself regardless of what the :as- kissing majority says. I guess it's just soo easy for people to go along with the so called "wisdom" of someone labelled a counselor, and that's really too bad. I've always stood strong in my belief that being an addict is not the end of a person's life, it is what you make of it. And whether known or not, when you are able to manage your addiction and function successfully in society you are doing so along with countless other people, people who are making it in life and have an addiction. Why don't you hear of those stories too often? Because is it really worth standing up against the emotionless monotones of a counselor who lives in a world of black and white, and spews the facts that have been studied as boring as reading a sh-tty book. I have never conformed to that way, never decided to place myself into some know it all' who knows nothing' of my world.

    I don't think it's really that hard for people to see and accept that people addicted to a drug can still be productive and valuable. For sure, some can't, that's half of the reason the treatment centers are filled up with addicts who can't handle their drug use and maintain a viable lifestyle. But why rush to the conclusion that an addict will always fall and fail, I steadfastly believe that's false and those who love to spout and preach their old time treatment ideas know that their ways and solutions are on the way out, there are real modern ways of combating an addiction if "need" be, and it's not by standing up and reciting your name and 'duh, what you are." Sharing some donuts and holding hands with strangers, com'on."

    So does that mean I can't stand counselors? not at all, just the fake ones who I can pick out as hypocrites right away, and I have since the first day I joined here. It doesn't really matter who that happens to be because my way of thinking is going to become more and more sensible as time goes by and the world progresses. So instead of giving up or giving in, instead of jumping on the 'addiction' bandwagon' as another lost cause waiting to be rescued by some heroic drug counselor, give yourself some credit if it is due, and if not then try standing on your own two feet and facing what you have to beat, you might find that you were strong enough to do that all along.

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    @File Error 500, I totally get where you are coming from. There are a number of "beloved" members here who seem to have never placed an IOP order, and chime in calling everyone addicts. Why are they on an online pharmacy review forum? I have no idea. I guess a "beloved" member for some, is an annoyance for another. These members were placed on my "ignore" list long ago (along with a few other distracting members), and I've never been happier it's a great feature. I'm not trying to be sarcastic, I really use the ignore function a lot. There are whole sections of the forum I have on ignore (political, conspiracy theory etc). I'm here for one primary purpose - find and review online medicine suppliers. If I make a few friends in that endeavor, that's great. If I want to post about my oragami hobby, or quitting my oragami addiction, I'll go to a more appropriate forum. For me I've found It's really not worth the aggravation to have certain people or topics cluttering my feed. I really suggest and highly recommend the ignore feature for a much more pleasant forum experience

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    @Paichka emailed billy but I didn't see any posts from her about him writing her back. I hope he's okay.

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    I would say much more but I do see the point that anyone who champions a cause that has only a five percent success rate must have something really wrong with them. Anywhere else in the world when success is only five percent and failure is ninety five, it usually means it's time to figure out something else, like perhaps a different way of doing drug treatment, I would think? But not here, the old 12 steppers and old style rhetorics just keep plodding along, producing failures and taking in money. Where else can a person go and waste umpteens amounts of money to fail over and over, no place better to do so than a treatment center run by old style counseling. This is why I say just save your money and put yourself first, and even if you can't overcome at least you aren't losing money for it too. lol When the time comes, if you truly have an addiction that is detrimental to your life and lifestyle, then if you decide within yourself to change things, you will do so, and only when you mke that decision will it ever happen. You don't need to waste money and time doing that and making that choice. Treatment thrives off of those who fail and all money is good money, and I find the hypocrisy humorous.

    How do people tell others how to live when they haven't lived through it themselves? No amount of studying sh-t out of a book is the same as real life experience, and it will never command a fraction of the respect that someone who has lived it and walked the walk. You can attain a thousand degrees and study forever yet still be a pretensious assinine fool, it happens all the time. That's why the success rate is so low, nobody is going to listen to someone who doesn't know firsthand what they are living and dealing with. To know me, you have to be or have been as me, and if not, I have no respect for a fake wannabe, and in my world that is a person who ends up hurt in a ditch somewhere, and no amount of begging and pleading for mercy and Jesus and crying for your kids will change things, when your times up, it's up, so don't stick your nose into a world that you really know about only in pictures and books, because when you find the reality of it all, it will be too late to go back to your little uneventful cozy nice mid american home with nothing eventful ever happening, you won't be around to make it back home. Study nature or something nice and safe as a career.

    Why the excuses? I make no pretense of being born in the ghetto or having to live there, thus it was my destiny to deal cocaine. No, I grew up in a decent home, abused maybe but not poor. I decided to deal because quite frankly I happened to like the idea of making a fifteen minute drive and collecting more money than my two pathetic two week paycheck from the factory was. Everything I have done, every step in my life, I chose to do so, and all through the years, the changes, the good and the bad, I've been to the highest of highs, and I've been at the bottom of the lowest of lows, but it was all because I put myself there and made those decisions. I will only agree with one thing which most cocaine dealers will admit to, that before using their supply they made a lot more money than after picking up the habit, I will gree with that. The years I sold and didn't use were some of the most profitable and happy years of my life, and oh what a difference a drug habit does make. It's not the money, there's money enough to snort a rail every three seconds for the rest of your life. It's the feelings of paranoia, the underlying fears, the hidden monsters that become realities in your mind that were never there before you ever imbibed in a line. That is what gts to you the most, the symptoms of the habit, and eventually it will bring you down if you don't beat it, and very, very few will do that because when the drug you are addicted to is free flowing through your hands and in your face in piles and bags every second of your waking life you aren't going to stop using it. It's as much a part of your lifestyle as the little gold spoon that hangs off one of the chains on your neck, and it ain't going away until you do.

    I have gotten off track here and am far from my thoughts about drug counseling, yet one thing I can say ring true is that in the end the only way for anyone to truly stop doing what they do and quit using what they are addicted to is within themselves and only them. I know this because some of my best customers were drug and alcohol counselors, a lawyer who graded others to pass the bar here in this state, several nurses and even my own lawyer, all loyal weekly customers and addicts to the shiny white powder of the gods. Ask me sometime and I'll be glad to tell anyone all about the life of living 'the life.', and honestly, it ain't all it's cracked up to be, but you'd have to live it first to know because from the outside looking in it appears to be a great way of living and a beautiful way to live. Everything that looks good ain't good for you, and this I know from experience.
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    I would not be able to leave my home without benzo's. I was prescribed a large amount of xanax (8 mgs a day) then my Doc retired and the one that took his place gave me a two week supply to wean off of after more than 20 years!

    I went through hell and was treated like crap for every ER visit after having siezures.

    [B]THERE IS A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN DEPENDENCY AND ADDICTION.[/B

    That is something some will never get. I was in Hospice care for years and when my company folded, no more work for me because of U.As. They never bothered to ask me anything, they just said I could not be trusted driving my patients anywhere under the influence of Xanax.

    Back to the question, yes you can be a functioning addict. My brother is an alcoholic but maintains a good job and has for years. He also almost died due to pancreatitus. He was not lucky enough to be put in a medically induced coma, instead he was just givin shots of demarol and not allow one drop of liquid or one bite of food. God he suffered so much, begging me for a drop of water and I could not give it to him.
    I never thought to ask why they would not put him in a coma so he would not have to suffer so much.

    I believe it also depends on the drug, Alcohol to me would be the hardest to hide. Some may even make you more productive.
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    Thank you for supporting me.
    @Kessa my Father is a functioning alcoholic and had been for 60 years. He has gotten up in time, worked as an Architect, did moonlighting, but drank every night what is an obesene amount. I guess for him, it did make him "more productive".

    EDIT: I wrote "had" been as opposed to "has" been, which makes it seem as if he is deceased. He is living and is 83. I just have not talked to him in twenties years. Not because he is an alcoholic, but he never gave me any reason to feel loved.
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    Quote Originally Posted by File Error 500 View Post
    @davidpaul, @toby, @wintermute, @C&T, @Kessa, @jakemoe @steve12345

    Thank you for supporting me.
    @Kessa my Father is a functioning alcoholic and had been for 60 years. He has gotten up in time, worked as an Architect, did moonlighting, but drank every night what is an obesene amount. I guess for him, it did make him "more productive".

    EDIT: I wrote "had" been as opposed to "has" been, which makes it seem as if he is deceased. He is living and is 83. I just have not talked to him in twenties years. Not because he is an alcoholic, but he never gave me any reason to feel loved.
    Love is a real specific reason NOT to talk to someone. Bit Love is the best reason to talk to someone,
    who hates, ignores or probably loves you as well.
    I'm a simple retired lawyer but I've seen more shit in my life than you can imagine.

    And finally I was drinking my whole life because it never went the right way.
    All of my kids know that and they always complained.

    Why not jumping over your shadow, call your dad and tell him, that you understand.
    The wise way beats everything. Give it a try......you'll probably meet someone you
    love. Yourself.

    :-)
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    @alumni, @snowy, @djrick - Long ago, @billyboy PM'd me his email address just in case he ever had to disappear from PR. I emailed him March 31 and have not had a reply. It surprised me because I thought he would at least say how things are with him since I expressed concern. If anyone has heard from him, please let us know. It is worrisome when a friend just falls off the grid like this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paichka View Post
    It is worrisome when a friend just falls off the grid like this.
    Usually not good news.

  18. Quote Originally Posted by Apteka View Post
    Love is a real specific reason NOT to talk to someone. Bit Love is the best reason to talk to someone,
    who hates, ignores or probably loves you as well.
    I'm a simple retired lawyer but I've seen more shit in my life than you can imagine.

    And finally I was drinking my whole life because it never went the right way.
    All of my kids know that and they always complained.

    Why not jumping over your shadow, call your dad and tell him, that you understand.
    The wise way beats everything. Give it a try......you'll probably meet someone you
    love. Yourself.

    :-)
    I called him in 2013. But, it did not go WELL.
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    I called him in 2013. But, it did not go WELL.
    You've earned my respect.
    If it does not work, then it does not work.

    Never look back then. Just go for it and make the best out of it.
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  20. Quote Originally Posted by Apteka View Post
    You've earned my respect.
    If it does not work, then it does not work.

    Never look back then. Just go for it and make the best out of it.
    Thank you for saying that, it means a lot.
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