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    Had a buddy who told me he had a 4 teeth pulled recently, and they weren't willing to prescribe him anything at all. Dentist stated the "ibuprofen/tylenol is just as strong as narcotics" BS.

    From what I'm hearing, I don't know if there are any dentists or even oral surgeons who are willing to write a script for anything other than 600mg ibuprophen. The interesting thing is that in the copy I kept from the old Arthritis Foundation website it says that ibuprophen is for "mild to moderate pain". Now I'm reading their update that narcotic pain relievers "do not help and may cause organ damage".

    Sorry, but I'd like to find the study that shows opioids cause more organ damage than ibuprophen or Tylenol
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    I'm not willing to have any surgery unless I know the Dr. will write me a scrip for pain pills. I will get it in advance so I don't have to stop at the pharmacy on the way home and deal with some bad pharmy. I did this once and it was at the dentist, but it was years ago, so I don't know how hard it would be to get the doc to cooperate these days.
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    Thank you for this thread. Chronic, severe pain can be life-altering -not in a good way-and although I understand the dependency and addiction risks, some people who have had long term chronic pain maybe need to be grandfathered and taken out of the new restriction group, or at least be treated with the dignity, understanding and care they deserve. OR provide inpatient care along with outpatient treatment.

    I have a family member who sought out/used heroin because he is disabled and treated as a pill seeker (yes he is... he basically has a entire fused spine with complications from an old cage) but he is denied and has to wear a "A" on his forehead and a neon sticker on his chart for being an addict and a street drug user. He broke his forearm and shoulder from a fall (maybe from being 'high' I don't know, and was only given ibuprofen from the ED after waiting for hours, for care because of his history.

    Perhaps the pendulum has swung too far in denying appropriate pain control and it will swing to an appropriate balance. Or, develop medication that can be taken that is effective and has a lower addiction rate.

    I feel fortunate I'm allergic to opioids and opioid derivatives.

    I feel badly for all in serious pain who are treated with disrespect and denied effective treatment for their pain! I wish relief for all of you.

    Gads!
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    @karuna...I'm very sorry to hear of the way your family member is being treated. Acute or chronic pain, dependent or addicted, every person has the right to be treated with understanding and dignity.

    I read a couple of books by a pain specialists back in the day when pain was actually considered important to a person's quality of life. One specialist had been the head of pain at Mass General hospital so we're not talking about a back alley doctor. He and the other specialist who was from Arizona both talked about the need to still control and treat pain for addicts and former addicts. A person's prior choices don't negate the very real fact that pain should be treated.

    Before all this fear of treatment, when I was on opioids for decades for chronic pain, every now and then I'd run into a doctor who wouldn't want to prescribe additional pain meds if I had an acute incident - like a broken kneecap. I was told "you're on pain meds already, you don't need more".

    Reality is that once a chronic pain patient achieves the right medication, it brings them to what most people feel as normal. But, if you have added pain, it would be the same as a non pain patient in an acute situation. The pain meds covered me for my baseline pain, not for broken bones.
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    @Bawston I agree with you completely. I saw a CT scan of a non-opioid user and a user. They were different. The point being you require the meds for your brain to function properly. Maybe I can find that article. Long ago, it's true a docs goal was to prescribe medication to get ahead of the pain train to slow it down. I agree one person who becomes addicted to prescribed medication is one too many. Yes there is a crisis and lives are ended too young through suicide or overdose or many people must live unable and incapacitated because they aren't provided pain relief to offer them any quality of life. I just watched a short spot on MSNBC today about a woman who cannot get the medication she needs to do anything other than walk (very gingerly) to her back porch to view nature. That is it. She was not an addict. I'll see what I can find.

    Please take care of yourself and your daughter.
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    @Bawston Here is a link to a short video

    https://www.msnbc.com/velshi-ruhle/w...-1471121475529

    Too many people live like this. And too many become dependent or addicted. It's a serious complex problem. I agree there are some doctors who still feel pain patients and addicts require a different approach to healing.

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    I am surprised they haven't started giving people a good blood-letting and a piece of bark to chew on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by karuna View Post
    @Bawston Here is a link to a short video

    https://www.msnbc.com/velshi-ruhle/w...-1471121475529

    Too many people live like this. And too many become dependent or addicted. It's a serious complex problem. I agree there are some doctors who still feel pain patients and addicts require a different approach to healing.
    @karuna...good video and I like Stephanie and Ali a lot. I've said this many times but I'll say it again because the woman they interviewed and Stephanie didn't quite get how it works...

    The head of pain at Mass General (he's in Calif now) said it's VERY easy. Someone who is on pain meds for chronic pain and is dependent does MORE and can function whereas an addict does LESS.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bawston View Post
    @karuna...good video and I like Stephanie and Ali a lot. I've said this many times but I'll say it again because the woman they interviewed and Stephanie didn't quite get how it works...

    The head of pain at Mass General (he's in Calif now) said it's VERY easy. Someone who is on pain meds for chronic pain and is dependent does MORE and can function whereas an addict does LESS.
    Absolutely spot-on perfect! And basically the story of my life. Thanks for passing this along, @Bawston
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kessa View Post
    I am surprised they haven't started giving people a good blood-letting and a piece of bark to chew on.
    @Kessa...well at least there's some therapeutic effect in certain tree bark - isn't that where they got the basic components of aspirin?

    I've actually been offered a squeeze ball instead of pain meds.

    And since dentists have come up in conversations I'll share my latest dentist's suggestion regarding intense, monthly mouth pain from energetic cleaning...try vitamin B.

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    Absolutely believable. Last year my mom had knee replacement surgery. She was in pain from the time the surgery was over and could not get any pain relief from her surgeon. Luckily I had something on hand and helped her out. It’s just ridiculous that they do not want to provide patients with pain relief after major surgery.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tedh View Post
    Absolutely believable. Last year my mom had knee replacement surgery. She was in pain from the time the surgery was over and could not get any pain relief from her surgeon. Luckily I had something on hand and helped her out. It’s just ridiculous that they do not want to provide patients with pain relief after major surgery.
    That's why a patient must demand access to adequate pain meds after the surgery. Before the surgery, have a conversation with your doctor making it clear that you expect enough meds.
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    We thought we had the pain relief expectations taken care of prior to the surgery however the surgeon didn’t do what he said he would. My mom later ripped him a new ******** at his office. It was a sight to behold.
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    I remember when I was first prescribed OxyContin that prescriptions were called opioids and street drugs were called NARCOTICS. This was way back when doctors who actually cared to treat pain patients made a point to not call prescriptions narcotics.

    Maybe it doesn't seem like a big distinction but back then they really wanted to take away the stigma of being treated for your very real pain and you were told that there's no shame in it - we were encouraged to accept help and get relief.

    Then, somewhere along the line everything got lumped together and street drugs are called opioids and counted in the overdose counts as if they were prescriptions. When did that all sneak in there?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tedh View Post
    We thought we had the pain relief expectations taken care of prior to the surgery however the surgeon didn’t do what he said he would. My mom later ripped him a new ******** at his office. It was a sight to behold.
    I would like to meet your mom.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tedh View Post
    Absolutely believable. Last year my mom had knee replacement surgery. She was in pain from the time the surgery was over and could not get any pain relief from her surgeon. Luckily I had something on hand and helped her out. It’s just ridiculous that they do not want to provide patients with pain relief after major surgery.
    @tedh...and that's exactly the crazy excuse they give as to why they won't prescribe adequate pain meds...you gave your mom meds so therefore, you must have been given TOO MANY. See their logic there? So rather than adequately treat your mother's pain they demonize you for helping her out.

    And this is why we hoard our meds which we're also criticized for.

    Similar situation with my sister who broke her back. She was visiting her daughter when it happened and had to get on a long flight home the next day. Went to a walk in emergency and explained the situation about just needing to get home so surprisingly they prescribed for her. She rationed them in case of any future problems but then got a call from her other daughter who'd had multiple teeth extracted and been given nothing. Her daughter begged for help so my sister shared her prescription.

    Question is why should some people be given relief from pain but others aren't deemed worthy? Why are some doctors so afraid of raising any red flags that they forget about helping people?
    @tedh...your mom is a rock star!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bawston View Post
    @tedh...and that's exactly the crazy excuse they give as to why they won't prescribe adequate pain meds...you gave your mom meds so therefore, you must have been given TOO MANY. See their logic there? So rather than adequately treat your mother's pain they demonize you for helping her out.

    And this is why we hoard our meds which we're also criticized for.

    Similar situation with my sister who broke her back. She was visiting her daughter when it happened and had to get on a long flight home the next day. Went to a walk in emergency and explained the situation about just needing to get home so surprisingly they prescribed for her. She rationed them in case of any future problems but then got a call from her other daughter who'd had multiple teeth extracted and been given nothing. Her daughter begged for help so my sister shared her prescription.

    Question is why should some people be given relief from pain but others aren't deemed worthy? Why are some doctors so afraid of raising any red flags that they forget about helping people?
    @tedh...your mom is a rock star!
    @Bawston thing is they didn’t know I gave my mom anything. We sure as hell didn’t tell them. We were just lucky that I had something on hand to help her out. I think it’s absolutely ridiculous to undergo major surgery without proper pain relief. My mom is a tough lady, she has a very high pain tolerance, if she says she’s in pain, then she’s in pain.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tedh View Post
    Absolutely believable. Last year my mom had knee replacement surgery. She was in pain from the time the surgery was over and could not get any pain relief from her surgeon. Luckily I had something on hand and helped her out. It’s just ridiculous that they do not want to provide patients with pain relief after major surgery.
    That is absolutely repugnant. It is insane that people who have surgeries are being denied adequate pain management - that is pure cruelty. Me, I plan to avoid joint replacement until I absolutely cannot walk at all - and I have nasty osteoarthritis, bilateral. But I don't plan to try to tough it through any major surgery (r any minor surgery, for that matter) unless I have a few days of opioid medications to keep the pain in check. Not two weeks' worth, mind you - 3 to 5 days should do it for MOST surgeries (joint replacement, from what I've hear, requires a longer period of pain management).

    I'd let everyone you know know who that surgeon is. When a bone cutter refuses pain medication after cutting a bone, the word should get out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ellyn View Post
    That is absolutely repugnant. It is insane that people who have surgeries are being denied adequate pain management - that is pure cruelty. Me, I plan to avoid joint replacement until I absolutely cannot walk at all - and I have nasty osteoarthritis, bilateral. But I don't plan to try to tough it through any major surgery (r any minor surgery, for that matter) unless I have a few days of opioid medications to keep the pain in check. Not two weeks' worth, mind you - 3 to 5 days should do it for MOST surgeries (joint replacement, from what I've hear, requires a longer period of pain management).

    I'd let everyone you know know who that surgeon is. When a bone cutter refuses pain medication after cutting a bone, the word should get out.
    She had one knee replaced five years before the second one. Unfortunately the surgeon that did the first knee replacement had retired, he had a done a knee surgery on me in 2014, he was awesome.

    The second surgeon was highly regarded/recommended but every thing about the second surgery was different. They didn’t do the ice therapy although we did it as soon as she got home. They delayed getting her into physical therapy for several weeks. Apparently they had a problem sending the orders to the pt place even though she repeatedly called them. The doctor went on vacation and wasn’t available for follow up. Refusing to help alleviate her pain. It was a joke.

    I absolutely loved the day she ripped him a new one in his office. I was there, I was her designated driver.
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    Oooooh - what did she say? I'd love to know what she said, and how he responded to her. Some of these doctors (not all, but some) think they're above considering what a patient thinks or how a patient feels. But we're the ones who pay for their services.

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