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    i have never been in the service or anything but I been in some car accidents, Had 3 seizures, And got jumped by 5 punks before.
    So my back is in pain every single day and i have read some other's post who suffer probably even worst then mine cause I just except mine now
    there nothing unless i had kobe Bryant or Tom brady $$$$ to get a great ass surgeon. So like someone said on here I order tramadol from some of these
    vendors and yeah it is probably the best your gonna get online. And from the few people that know me on here I suffered from seizures, luckily haven't had a seizure in 2 years i think I'm doing good as far as that, But have urinary retention,Back pain and IMSOMNIA LIKE NO ONE HAS EVER HAD IN THERE LIFE. I will except the back pain, the urinary retention, BUT I WANNA DO IN LIFE IS GET 4 HOURS OF SLEEP A DAY AND NO ONE WILL HELP ME. Thanks admins

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    Ok, so I have back pain too. I take DHC or codeine for it now. Used to take hydrocodone and oxycontin, they didn't help the pain anymore than the lighter opioids. But they did make me wacked. So... I don't recommend heavy PK's to anyone. I've tried PT, autohypnosis, biofeedback, neurofeedback, chiropractor, NSAID's, opioids, corticosteroid injections, nerve block, etc... I recommend mild opioids, lose weight, and exercise.

    So, insomnia, urinary retention, and back pain. I have all those and lead a normal life with a minimum of medication - because taking more exacerbates my urinary retention. And it's likely your problem as well. You really aren't much different from anyone else here in your problems.
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  3. this is not a site about recreation, @CANT SLEEP HELP PLZ. that means many members suffer from chronic pain and illnesses, insomnia included. so everyone is trying to navigate through life. no one has a magic remedy, unfortunately. i've read many posts here on chronic insomnia, and, in fact, i've been awake myself since 3:30 am. there's no one behind the curtain. you just have to keep trying til you find something that helps.
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  4. Have you tried CBD/THC? And magnesium? 600mg magnesium with a couple gummies might help. Oh and Kratom. Sorry to hear you are suffering hope you find relief soon.
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  5. @RunRunRiver - I hadn’t thought about using magnesium, but might give that a try. I’m a week into life without RX pks, utiling Kratom and CBD topical cream. All things considered, it’s going well, but I’ve started having tweaks of pain in my usual trouble spot over the last few days. It’s making sleeping a bear. I’m gonna pick up some magnesium and see if that helps!
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    how about capsaicin creme? may help a lot
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    I certainly wouldn't dissuade anyone from trying anything that might help alleviate pain. I was given topicals ranging from transdermal lidocaine patches, to formulary ointments with a whole bunch of NSAID's, plus it was supposed to have Ketamine, but as I posted previously, my doctor wouldn't let them use the Ketamine in mine. The only thing I can be happy about, was this was all covered by insurance. Since it did absolutely nothing, if I had paid the $300 plus, per tube, out of pocket, I would have screamed.

    Again, please don't take my experience as a recommendation to not try these. They have to help some people, or the insurance companies would never pay for them. The lidocaine was 0% effective, for me, as well.
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    A tens unit is another possibility
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  9. @M77, i have frequent utis and lidocaine is pretty helpful with that pain. maybe it works better on mucous membranes? mine is $200 a tube, but it does not work on back pain. a lot of back pain is referred: mine comes from the si region, an area too internal to reach with lotion. ointment on my sacrum doesn't reach the source.

    i have never had luck with a tens unit, @Gullible. like capsaicin creme, it seems to function by irritating the skin and distracting you from the pain. not a fan of either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by notcharlotte View Post
    @M77, i have frequent utis and lidocaine is pretty helpful with that pain. maybe it works better on mucous membranes? mine is $200 a tube, but it does not work on back pain. a lot of back pain is referred: mine comes from the si region, an area too internal to reach with lotion. ointment on my sacrum doesn't reach the source.

    i have never had luck with a tens unit, @Gullible. like capsaicin creme, it seems to function by irritating the skin and distracting you from the pain. not a fan of either.
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    I agree, Lidocaine absolutely does work on mucus membranes, etc. As a matter of fact, my dentist uses it with a long medical type q-tip, to numb up an area in the mouth, before injecting Novocain, and also before cleanings. I was referring to the transdermal patches for back pain, and neuropathy. I found that they did nothing at all, and the NSAID formulary ointments didn’t work either.
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    I have been shopping for the various tens units, and found that they have “slippers” with electrodes, to help with nerve pain, for feet. I am going to try those, I have nothing to lose. I might as well give the Vagus nerve stimulation a try, while I’m at it.
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    I have sciatica too, but as you mentioned, nothing topical would touch it. The Lidocaine patches were to help with discs in my T-spine, and they are close enough, but nothing topical worked. Of course they want to do the injections, but I had a really bad experience with those, and as much as they might actually help, I don’t want to go through the side effects that happened, last time I tried them. They are done differently now, but I just don’t want to deal with them again.
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  12. I’m curious to know more about why the injections went bad? I was thinking about doing them but want to know the downside
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    I had the injections in a doctor’s office. No radiological assistance, which is how they do them now. So the doctor was just sticking a needle in my back, trying to inject a steroid in between my discs. The first few times, nothing went wrong, but they also didn’t help. The problem was the doctor had no idea if the shots were going where they were supposed to. I don’t let anyone put anything in my body, without asking questions. It turns out they were using a steroid meant for things like tennis elbow, etc. After things went bad, I found out that it was never supposed to be used anywhere near “neural tissue.” The doctor must have gotten it into my spinal canal, which obviously is neural. That night I had what I can only call a seizure. I don’t want to get into the details, but it was really bad.

    I didn’t want to cause anyone to avoid these shots, because now they are done with a fluoroscope, so the doctor can get it exactly where they want to. I most likely would really benefit from this, but I just don’t want to deal with it again. That is only me, because of my experience. There are people here that have benefited tremendously from this, and I believe a few that didn’t think it was that helpful. But, they do not ever do it the way it was done to me, which had to be at least 20 years ago.
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    be very careful especially asking non doctors to help you sleep. you need to talk to doctor or therapy.. my grandma worked as a nurse for years till she retired and her back disc cause her a lot of pains from holding patients etc... she did not like how rx made her feel and we have addicts in the family.. so she tried some cream and shots nothing helped she struggle to sleep so she decided to get surgery then ended up not be able to walk and need therapy for 6 months to the point it got her frustratesd and got her foot swollen so she started medicines for pain, anexity, sleep, etc then she died in her sleep recently may 2019 its sad thinking about all things she went through she was only 74 and she was full of smiles and always doing stuff before the surgery after the surgery meds shots she went downhill always in bed not happy frustrated and then she died so all those surgery and meds was for nothing.. i still feel sad n angry and trying understand why .. i always wondered if she did not do the surgery would she still be alive .. after the surgery pain was worst and nothing was improving and many meds n shots

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    @RunRunRiver i have always wondered the same but afraid to try since what happened to my grandma i posted about it before i posted this.. i have had lower back pain since car accident and was on meds for month then did chirco(spell?) massaging and popping it got better but keeps coming back once a while and it been worsing lately when i clean a lot or workout or carry things but i am scared of shots and hate people touching popping my bone... i try to stretch as often as possible and take a salt bath and have my annoying husband massage the area with hot cream its temporary helps
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