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    I have put on quite abit of weight since I suffered a slipped disc last year I have gone from 9stone to 11 stone,I can’t really exercise because of my severe back pains so have been looking towards weight loss tablets but I need something that won’t contaract with tramadol and morphine any help and advise much appreciated ????
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    I have put on quite abit of weight since I suffered a slipped disc last year I have gone from 9stone to 11 stone,I can’t really exercise because of my severe back pains so have been looking towards weight loss tablets but I need something that won’t contaract with tramadol and morphine any help and advise much appreciated ????
    At the end of the day almost all unhealthy weight gain is caused by an imbalance between consumption and utilization of energy. You could also look at it as an unfavorable calorie-in vs calorie-out equation. When your level of activity decreased after your slipped disk the amount of energy you could burn decreased so the remaining surplus has been stored in the body and increased your weight. You just need to find the right way to get that energy balance to favor weight loss.

    Of course there are individual factors like thyroid issues, diabetic and prediabetic conditions and genetic predispositions but the basic model for successful weight loss is to consume fewer calories than you burn.

    There are pills that do various things that can help like alpha amylase inhibitors, most are over the counter products. They interfere with the intestinal digestion of carbohydrates and lower the number of calories you get from those foods. There are side effects though, the starchy foods that aren't digested in the small intestine end up in the colon and the bacteria there goes wild finishing it off causing gas and sudden bowel movements.

    Stimulant diet pills decrease the appetite so the energy intake is reduced. It sounds great but there are side effects there too and you are aware that they could be a risky mix with the pain medicine you take. Psychologically, the opposing effects of mental stimulation and the depressant effects of the pain medicine could cause some unwanted changes in your personality or make you feel agitated or just crazy.

    My best advice is to take what you need for the pain and make changes in your diet. Getting rid of refined carbohydrates is an easy place to start. You could simply stop buying sugar and move on from pastas and sugar sweetened drinks. This doesn't mean that portion sizes have to shrink. If you choose the right foods you can eat plenty. Also, give yourself time. Time is on your side when you decrease your calorie intake to favor weight loss. Don't weigh yourself every day or fret about it. You'll see the changes in the long term and that's what counts.

    A compounding benefit is that as your body weight decreases your level of physical activity will likely increase and your calorie expenditure will go up along with it, tilting the equation even more in favor of weight loss.

    Another option is surgical alteration of the digestive tract. It's getting more common but it's pretty drastic and I would say that it's still a last resort.

    2 stone is very doable. I lost than much in less than a year just with diet changes. Hope you'll feel better and lighter soon.
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    I can tell you an easy way to lose the weight without any drugs and without feeling like you are starving. As a bonus, you can eat all you like and still lose weight. Its all true but most people will not try it because it means giving up many of their favorite foods. You have to make up your mind you are going to do what it takes to lose the weight and keep it off. If its just a "I'll try this for a little while and see" it will not work. You must get serious first.

    It is quite simple, do not eat anything with added sugar or flour. That is the core of the plan, you also can't go hog wild on fatty foods like cheese or nuts. Eat all the veggies you want, they can be quite delicious if properly prepared. Have some fruit for dessert.

    The reason this works and you don't get hunger pains is because sugar creates more hunger the more you eat of it. Flour turns into sugar soon after eating so do not turn to bread, rolls, croutons, pizza etc. I lost over 60lb with this plan a few years ago and its still off, has not returned. I was never hungry and ate all I wished. You can lose weight faster by limiting portions but you will lose a lot even if you eat plenty
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  4. @Gullible that reminds me of the Michael Pollen book which came out ages ago. "Eat food. Not too much. Mostly plants. Nothing your Grandmother (maybe now it's your great great grandmother) would not recognize." I added the parenthetical statement, it's not from Michael Pollen.

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    Be careful NOT to use drugs like Phentermine and Subutramine. They can have bad interactions with Tramadol.

    Diet is obviously the key. One over the counter combination that can help with moderate weight loss is an Ephedrine and Caffeine Stack. PM me if you want to know more about it. Just remember that it may reduce your appetite for the first few days but it will go back to normal. It actually isn't an appetite suppressor. It works but being thermogenic. That means it raises your metabolism (body temp) so that you burn more calories. A lot of people stop using it because their appetite returns to normal and they think it isn't working.

    Again we are talking moderate weight loss. No miracles

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    Quote Originally Posted by JAMMY B View Post
    I have put on quite abit of weight since I suffered a slipped disc last year I have gone from 9stone to 11 stone,I can’t really exercise because of my severe back pains so have been looking towards weight loss tablets but I need something that won’t contaract with tramadol and morphine any help and advise much appreciated ????
    Try fasting one day a week. Went from 212lbs to 165lbs in about 9 months! Have kept it off for over 5 years
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    NOT to use drugs like Phentermine and Subutramine. They can have bad interactions with Tramadol.
    Can you be more specific about that claim. I do know there are no interactions between percs and phentermine but tramadol is known for being tricky but that varies between individuals

    Phentermine decreases appetite significantly for 6 to 8 weeks and then that effect wears off to some extent. During that time eating habits can be changed and quite a bit of weight can be lost if calorie intake is reduced along with the lack of appetite ( this may be harder than you think since we are so accustomed to regular amounts of food). will need to monitor your blood pressure since it can be raised by stimulant medication like phentermine.
    Ephedrine and Caffeine Stack are used at times by weight lifters and are dangerous IMO.

    Meridia, (Sibutramine) which the FDA approved in 1997, was banned in Europe after now is banned in the US due to cardiac complications

    My son did not want to go the medication route so he used a modified Atkins and lost 60 pound in nine months. That's a high meat protein diet with minimal carbs like broccoli. As long as he stays away from beer he has no trouble keeping it off. He can all the whiskey he wants, just not beer.


    I had a dentist who lost so much weight I did not recognize him. He just did not anything white-- flour sugar rice potatoes. Since then I have read a good book that was called No flour, No sugar. Easy to say but hard to do.

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    i'll just advise good old calorie counting. measure and count everything and it works even without exercise. i hate stimulants and never use them. when i was a teenager, however, i used to buy this appetite suppressant called "ayds." that was indeed a long time ago ( it was like a little piece of fudge). nothing worked until i counted calories. it's also a good idea to cut sugar and alcohol, but to also give yourself some free foods: veggies, undressed salad, sir popped popcorn. now that i'm older i need to gain weight, ironically.
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    It is definitely calories in and calories burned. Of course eating no sugar and no simple carbs helps because there are more calories per portion in these foods for the most part.

    If I find that I have gained more than 5 pounds, I then lower my calories again. It is not easy when your exercise is limited because of pain levels and damage. I am a vegetarian who would like to be vegan. I find that I eat to many sweets and for reasons other than weight gain I need to lower my sugar intake. Sweets do not put weight on if I count my calories but I know they are not in my body’s self interest. Good luck with losing the weight. It is never easy.

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    With your injury, you may be on Gabapentin . If so, that could cause you to retain water and gain weight. Google it and you will see lots of info on it. Just a thought.

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