12 Experts Questioning the Coronavirus Panic

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Trainer25

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I'm not one for conspiracy theories but the reason that they are so popular nowadays is because most people know that they are being lied to by the media. If you know the media is lying, you ask yourself, "what are they lying about? Why are they lying" - that gives rise to all kinds of speculation. I personally do not believe covid-19 is germ warfare but I also don't believe that it's a serious threat to my health and well-being. The media only reports the more graphic and fear-mongering news stories and never stories that would calm/quell the hysteria. For awhile I have wondered why when cases were so high in Florida and Texas and midwest, so few people died or were hospitalized as they ostensibly did back in March April in the Northeast. I started reading scientific journals on viral attenuation - the ways that viruses often lose potency over the course of their spread through a community. I've read several European news stories about viral attenuation as the reason why the novel coronavirus is less deadly now than in was. Do you see news reports of viral attenuation in the US? no. Why not? Because it doesn't fit the narrative - the media wants us to be hysterical and terrified and stories of the cononavirus attenuation would quell some of that fear. Cases are on the rise - Cases are at all time high. Are people getting sick? Did any of the football players get sick? Did any of the college students get sick. I'm not a doctor but do a search for coronavirus and viral attenuation and research it for yourself and decide for yourself.
 

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I'm not one for conspiracy theories but the reason that they are so popular nowadays is because most people know that they are being lied to by the media. If you know the media is lying, you ask yourself, "what are they lying about? Why are they lying" - that gives rise to all kinds of speculation. I personally do not believe covid-19 is germ warfare but I also don't believe that it's a serious threat to my health and well-being. The media only reports the more graphic and fear-mongering news stories and never stories that would calm/quell the hysteria. For awhile I have wondered why when cases were so high in Florida and Texas and midwest, so few people died or were hospitalized as they ostensibly did back in March April in the Northeast. I started reading scientific journals on viral attenuation - the ways that viruses often lose potency over the course of their spread through a community. I've read several European news stories about viral attenuation as the reason why the novel coronavirus is less deadly now than in was. Do you see news reports of viral attenuation in the US? no. Why not? Because it doesn't fit the narrative - the media wants us to be hysterical and terrified and stories of the cononavirus attenuation would quell some of that fear. Cases are on the rise - Cases are at all time high. Are people getting sick? Did any of the football players get sick? Did any of the college students get sick. I'm not a doctor but do a search for coronavirus and viral attenuation and research it for yourself and decide for yourself.
Hospitals are at or close to capacity all over the US. I listen to actual medical folks and what they are saying more than anyone else. True, young folks are the least likely to get sick but the hospitals are filling up with someones...

 

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Very well said, @LightUser99. The covid panic has become little more than a scam to bully the public into staying at home or wearing useless masks.

In Sweden, they have had no lockdowns, no mask requirements at all and their numbers are better than many neighboring countries. While Italy, for example, which had quarantines and mask orders very strictly enforced, has seen a new outbreak.

Also its funny how almost no one dies of ordinary flu anymore. I guess covid cured the flu?
 

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Here is an interesting article
"We feared hospitals would be overwhelmed. Instead, in many states, they’re emptying out and laying off doctors and nurses.

Many hospitals are getting pushed near, or over, the financial edge. At a time when we feared that hospitals would get overwhelmed by a surge of patients, they have instead been emptied out. At a time when we thought medical personnel would be at a premium, they are instead being idled all over the country.

We are experiencing an epidemic that bizarrely — and in part because of the choices of policymakers — has created a surfeit of hospital beds and an excess of doctors and nurses.

Not everywhere, of course. Hospitals in New York City and parts of New Jersey have been tested to their limits. But throughout much of the country, hospitals are drastically underutilized, both because states have banned elective procedures and people have been too afraid to show up."


So it seems a few hospitals in a few areas are full up but overall its the opposite.
 

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I personally do not believe covid-19 is germ warfare...

I certainly agree with you that "the media wants us to be hysterical and terrified", but the notion that COVID-19 is a biological weapon is not some wild "conspiracy theory", but the opinion of Professor Francis Boyle, who drafted the US implementing legislation for the Biological Weapons Anti-Terrorism Act and is presumably in a position to know about such things.

Needless to say, YouTube has removed the video of Professor Boyle’s interview linked to in the story, but you can still view it here. In the interview Professor Boyle notes that if you Google:

BSL-4 lab China

The Wuhan Institute of Virology is the first result. Wuhan, of course, is where it all started. BSL-4 labs are the only facilities that can do gain-of-function (GOF) research to develop offensive biological weapons. No one thinks that China released COVID-19 deliberately, as it did so much damage in their own country - although they certainly did nothing to prevent it spreading internationally.

The theory is that it's a bioweapon in development that escaped by accident, as sometimes happens. A finished bioweapon would probably be more lethal - unless this is just a beta test. Contrary to the mortality rate that Professor Boyle states in the old interview, we now know that COVID-19 has a very low mortality rate.
 

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I listen to actual medical folks and what they are saying more than anyone else...

In my experience you only ever listen to doctors who are allowed to pontificate on the mainstream media because they parrot the ludicrous propaganda of the corrupt and discredited CDC and WHO. Try listening to "diverse, exceedingly well-credentialed physicians" who "unlike the government, CDC, FDA, NIH or any other organization with other motives, have a fiduciary, moral, ethical, legal and spiritual obligation to help people...".

You might learn something.

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Here is an interesting article
"We feared hospitals would be overwhelmed. Instead, in many states, they’re emptying out and laying off doctors and nurses.

Many hospitals are getting pushed near, or over, the financial edge. At a time when we feared that hospitals would get overwhelmed by a surge of patients, they have instead been emptied out. At a time when we thought medical personnel would be at a premium, they are instead being idled all over the country.

We are experiencing an epidemic that bizarrely — and in part because of the choices of policymakers — has created a surfeit of hospital beds and an excess of doctors and nurses.

Not everywhere, of course. Hospitals in New York City and parts of New Jersey have been tested to their limits. But throughout much of the country, hospitals are drastically underutilized, both because states have banned elective procedures and people have been too afraid to show up."


So it seems a few hospitals in a few areas are full up but overall its the opposite.

The article you quoted is from April. The one I listed is from last week.

I should know better than to engage in these discussions, tho. I hope you all stay safe and well!
 
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People are beginning to see past the mainstream rhetoric. There has been a consistent agenda to promote fear. You have to ask yourself, why has most of the world shut down over a supposed virus that has a 99.9 % recovery rate, None of the hospitals are being inundated, as a matter of fact, people going round in person to these hospitals actually find there are no patients there. Lock downs are basically imprisoning healthy people, destroying businesses and reducing/ destroying everything people have worked hard for all their lives, and now they are trying to pass forced vaccinations across the board. Why?? They are detaching people from one another, there is no laughter, no one can see each others faces anymore, no hugs no love or empathy. They are trying to destroy everything that makes us human. People that are kept in fear are easily controlled.
 

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Here is an interesting article
"We feared hospitals would be overwhelmed. Instead, in many states, they’re emptying out and laying off doctors and nurses.

Many hospitals are getting pushed near, or over, the financial edge. At a time when we feared that hospitals would get overwhelmed by a surge of patients, they have instead been emptied out. At a time when we thought medical personnel would be at a premium, they are instead being idled all over the country.

We are experiencing an epidemic that bizarrely — and in part because of the choices of policymakers — has created a surfeit of hospital beds and an excess of doctors and nurses.

Not everywhere, of course. Hospitals in New York City and parts of New Jersey have been tested to their limits. But throughout much of the country, hospitals are drastically underutilized, both because states have banned elective procedures and people have been too afraid to show up."


So it seems a few hospitals in a few areas are full up but overall its the opposite.

The article you quoted is from April. The one I listed is from last week.

I should know better than to engage in these discussions, tho. I hope you all stay safe and well!
Your article is fear mongering with mostly opinions and little to no linkage to facts. One link I tried to follow is behind a paywall, you must be registered member to even read it so I didn't bother. Here is an interesting quote, its from your article

"cooler weather that pushes more people indoors is threatening to expand the outbreak still more."

And yet tyranical governors in many states have given orders to lockdown business and force people to stay home. Many of the orders have been challenged and some were declared unconstitutional, others are being appealed

Your article quoted info from april as well. It seems a few areas are seeing more cases than they have room for but this seems to be the exception rather than the rule

Did you know that around 600,000 people die per year from heart disease? No lockdowns on mcdonalds or other fast food vendors. Fast food as we know contributes to heart disease

More people die each year due to medical mistakes than to the 200,000 some odd attributed to covid. And many of those are from co-morbidities. They died from cancer, pneumonia, even auto crashes but since a test showed covid, that is claimed to be the cause rather than the cancer, heart disease etc which really killed them. Or they died from regular flu which kills up to 80,000 a year in this country

According to statistics, fewer people have died this year than in the last 2 years during the same time periods. Perhaps someone can explain why so much hysteria over this new flu?

And despite the fact that thousands of doctors have declared that masks do not help and in fact cause more disease, politicians have decided we must wear a mask or else.
 

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Bill Gates Waffles, Splutters, Gesticulates Wildly and Attempts to Obfuscate, Faced With Evidence that EIGHTY PER CENT of Moderna COVID Vaccine Test Subjects got Sick:


In reply to the interviewer's question: "Are these vaccines safe?", Gates replies "some of that [the side-effects] is not dramatic it's just super-painful..." (that's alright then!) and proceeds to waffle nonsense for several minutes. He never actually answers the question because the answer is all too obvious.

His serene assurance that the side-effects "didn't cause permanent health problems" is simply a lie, as far too little time has elapsed to know what, if any, long term health damage was sustained by the test subjects. Once the vaccine's pathogens have entered the body they can cause havoc months or even years later.
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Bill Gates Says Governments Will Have To Protect BigPharma From Liability for Damages Payouts Before COVID Vaccines Can be Distributed:


That's what the innocent-sounding word "indemnification" means - security against legal liability for one's actions. In other words, BigPharma keeps the billion dollar profits from vaccine sales and we, the taxpayers, are liable for the payment of damages in the inevitable multi-million dollar class-action lawsuits.

The threat of lawsuits is the only reason BigPharma ever worries about marketing unsafe products. Now they have nothing to fear at all! If they didn't know that their vaccine was dangerous and would lead to class-action lawsuits, why would they insist on being made immune from all financial and criminal liability as a condition for agreeing to its distribution? C'mon folks, this ain't rocket-science!

Bill Gates, Man of the People.
 
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I often see Sweden rolled out as a how to cope with a pandemic country but you can’t really compare them with a country like Italy for instance. The Swedes are by nature more likely to spend more time socialising outdoors for instance and they have a more compliant nature when it comes to adhering to rules. The bars were kept open but all outside, masks worn and limited numbers right from the start.
One thing to note is that they have quite a high death to case ratio than a lot of countries primarily down to nursing home deaths.
 

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Finally there's irrefutable evidence that - as I've said all along - government statistics are grossly inflated because COVID-19 diagnostic tests are completely unreliable, lockdowns accomplish nothing except the destruction of our economies and COVID-19 causes no more deaths than are caused by the flu in any other year. All the most recent scientific data supports those conclusions as this video featuring the biochemial engineer Ivor Cummins concisely explains.

Professor Carl James Heneghan, the director of the University of Oxford's Centre for Evidence-Based Medicine has recently expressed his full support for Ivor Cummins's brilliant evidential analyses of the government's claims about COVID-19. This video, that first alerted me to Ivor Cummins work is also hghly informative, as are the others on that channel.
And despite the viro-epidemiological "expert" brigade over at twatter sheep hearded by the now bearded ring nosed Jack Joseph Goebbels-Dorsey, cnn-msnbc-cbs-nbc-abc-jyt-bezos blog aka wapo & its 25,000 odd Orange Man Bad Lies, ad infinitum. And it seems Italy's quelling of SARS-CoV-2 aka "covid-19." Recent hospital admissions there where pre-admission medical histories are also mandatory as they are here and most of the world revealed, early this month, that eighty-four percent (84%) wore their face burkas continuously as noted by pre-admission work-ups to Fondazione Policlinico Universitario Agostino Gemelli. Plus this from the Statista: https://www.statista.com/statistics/1114375/wearing-a-face-mask-outside-in-european-countries/. NOTE the date published in relative to incubation period/s in Italy and others in the EUrabian Union now experience with increased cases of China/CCP virus surges... though actual death rates remain, per plan (agenda), obscure.

All this and LOTS more drives the shrieking Orange Man Bad blithering idiot psychotics and the Harris-Joe Xi Biden cadre deeper into the abyss of intractable mental illness. Won't end well.
 

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I often see Sweden rolled out as a how to cope with a pandemic country but you can’t really compare them with a country like Italy for instance. The Swedes are by nature more likely to spend more time socialising outdoors for instance and they have a more compliant nature when it comes to adhering to rules. The bars were kept open but all outside, masks worn and limited numbers right from the start.
One thing to note is that they have quite a high death to case ratio than a lot of countries primarily down to nursing home deaths.
To add ... Pollution problems in Italy are well known, same with Tehran Iran.

Their lungs have been running òn reserve for years.

Respiratory illnesses fatalities stats for 2019 and few years back would be interesting.
 

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I often see Sweden rolled out as a how to cope with a pandemic country but you can’t really compare them with a country like Italy for instance. The Swedes are by nature more likely to spend more time socialising outdoors for instance and they have a more compliant nature when it comes to adhering to rules. The bars were kept open but all outside, masks worn and limited numbers right from the start.
One thing to note is that they have quite a high death to case ratio than a lot of countries primarily down to nursing home deaths.
To add ... Pollution problems in Italy are well known, same with Tehran Iran.

Their lungs have been running òn reserve for years.

Respiratory illnesses fatalities stats for 2019 and few years back would be interesting.
There's so many variables its difficult to weigh up results of one country against another. I hope when all this is over (or at least diminished) we can have some good scientific answers to what we need to know should it happen again. Fingers crossed that it doesn't...
 

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More UK lockdown lies...

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-8916871/

"We've closed all of Cornwall down for three people in hospital": Healthcare assistant who publicly resigned claiming she had "no work for three weeks" at peak of the pandemic says claim the NHS is overrun is "all lies"

- Shelley Tasker, 43, from Camborne, Cornwall, resigned from Treliske hospital
- Healthcare assistant made speech outside Truro cathedral and revealed what's been going on behind closed doors of NHS hospitals
- Claims she had no work for three weeks at height of pandemic due to no patients


A whistleblower NHS healthcare assistant who publicly resigned after claiming she had "no work for three weeks" at the height of the pandemic has said the claim the NHS is overrun is "all lies".

A viral Facebook video shows Shelley Tasker, 43 - a healthcare assistant at Treliske hospital, which is part of the Royal Cornwall Hospitals NHS Trust - telling members of the public what is "really going on" behind closed doors in NHS hospitals.

In the clip filmed outside Truro Cathedral with a crowd gathering, Shelley, who is a mother and part-time photographer from Camborne, Cornwall, takes to a microphone and says: "As much as I've always loved our NHS, it's no longer our NHS. It's run by the corrupt government and the people running this company...".

She went on to claim that the flu and Covid cases are now recorded as "the same thing" on death certificates.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8917165/

Hospitals are NO busier than normal, critics are being silenced and there IS more space in empty Nightingales, top experts claim (and they slam ministers for "caving" into dodgy propaganda from Number 10's "gloomsters")

- Health Secretary Matt Hancock today warned the health service could collapse if Covid-19 not curtailed
- But top doctors and scientists told MailOnline wards no busier than they normally are at this time of year
- Other senior NHS intensive care doctors say they've been threatened by health bosses for speaking out


The NHS was never on track to be overwhelmed with coronavirus patients this winter but No10 was forced to hit the lockdown panic button because of its "gloomster" scientific advisers, top experts fumed today.

Health Secretary Matt Hancock has warned the health service could collapse and seriously ill non-Covid patients could be turned away unless Covid-19's resurgence is nipped in the bud.

But eminent doctors and scientists told MailOnline ministers had got their priorities twisted by sacrificing people's physical and mental wellbeing to save the NHS — which was designed to protect the people.

They claimed wards are no busier than they normally are at this time of year and that a large chunk of the people being treated for Covid-19 were either already in hospital when they caught the virus or would've been admitted for other reasons...
 

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Its really difficult at the moment in England. They say we are in lockdown but what does that actually mean? Schools are open, Universities too. Shops are open but pubs, cafes, restaurants are closed. I think I'd have preferred to go into a full proper lockdown in the summer if thats what it means to kill this but I don't think it is. It just looks as though its going to drag on forever.
 

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Lockdowns have never worked, sweden with no lockdowns and no mask laws is doing better than many other european countries with strict lockdowns etc
 

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I often see Sweden rolled out as a how to cope with a pandemic country but you can’t really compare them with a country like Italy for instance. The Swedes are by nature more likely to spend more time socialising outdoors for instance and they have a more compliant nature when it comes to adhering to rules. The bars were kept open but all outside, masks worn and limited numbers right from the start.
One thing to note is that they have quite a high death to case ratio than a lot of countries primarily down to nursing home deaths.
Seems Sweden got it very wrong
Mask up, not political

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