Are there any good anti aging creams out there???

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I saw someone post something similar so i wanted to do the same but my problem is a little different i wanna get these bags from under my eyes.
And im starting to get 2 face lines Im 47 i dont wanna look 55. At least not yet. And Im not gonna pay those $100 prices at macy stores and such. Does retina a cream really keep your face young if anyone can assist I would really appreciate it. Thanks
 

veejay

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I know of a friend using an anti aging product from a phillipine company,, it can help if you're interested in looking younger????of cos you're. Product is Restorelyf.
This is what I could get from the website.
RESTORLYF BENEFITSRestorLyf can prolong one’s life and many more! See how it can help you protect your body from aging.

Prolongs life span
Reduces signs of aging
Reverses degenerative diseases
Activates certain enzymes that regulate gene silencing and DNA repair
Increases SIRT1 genes to protect cells against free radical production and DNA damage, thereby reducing cell death
Mimics the effects of dietary restriction

You can look at there website unfortunately can't post a link here.
 

liltiki2

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Retinol cream. Restoril is different, it's a filler, done with a needle.
Under eye cream specific creams are the same thing as having a very good facial cream. Under eye is a misnomer and bad advertising. What works on the face works just as good under your eye. (moisturizing and plumping). It's all $.
 

ladygaga322

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my mom is 55 and she wanted a glow smooth skin not dry wrinkle bag under eye she tried a lot of things then she got dysport/botox for the fine lines and filler i forgot what its called maybe restylane or voluma it helps skin smoothed out and she use vitamn e liquid on her face every night. she look ten years younger after those injections but the con is dysport/botox last 3-4 months which mean she have to get it every 3-4 months (her wrinkles were gone till 3-4 months) these are only for forehead, crowfeet, frown but for smile line or under eye the filler lasts a year but it is like $900-1400 normally depending how much sygrine needed. dysport/botox $9-13 per unit but many place offer coupons or points like buy 25 unit get 25 free... but if you do not want injections try wash your face with luke warm not too warm water with a face wash (find one that dont dry your skin) a good mositurzer like vitamin e oil or little olive/coconut oil which will make ur face greasy then in morning depending if you wear makeup or not let me know if u like makeup i can suggest two favorite foundation my mom and my grandma love even i use it has tint and makes your face look smooth with glow along some little bronzer blush and highlight. i am very obessed with how i look and always finding what works for my mom and grandma cause they are the same way!
 

M77

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To anybody that is interested, all of the “under the eyes” creams, that show a ten minute before, and after, are a marketing ploy, on an old Hollywood trick. I don’t doubt @liltiki2 knows her stuff, and any facial moisturizer for the face, will work under the eyes.

With that in mind, the Hollywood trick is to use a little Preparation H, under the eyes. The active ingredients in Prep H, shrinks blood vessels, as that is what a hemorrhoid is. Don’t believe me? Google it. A good friend is a Hollywood talent agent. A little dab of Prep H, under each eye, will visibly tighten up the under eye bags, which anyone can get, but are more apparent as we age. I have not tried this myself, because I don’t really care, and if I am so exhausted that I have visible bags under my eyes, I probably wouldn’t go out anyway.

I am 100% positive on this, and I certainly would caution anyone that tries this, to use a q-tip, and be extremely careful not to get it in your eyes. I cannot tell you how much less Prep H costs, over the stuff they are advertising, but I would bet it is much less expensive.

You may even be able to find stuff about this on the web. I don’t know, because I haven’t tried, but I think if you searched Prep H for under eyes, you should find something that verifies this. Good luck!
 
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Raspberry

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@M77 I remember the Preparation H trick. It's the real deal.

What I have used for years is Aqua Glycolic, or Glycolic cream.. It's not the same as the Alpha Hydroxy, which does nothing for me. The Glycolic has a smaller molecular structure and penetrates better.
When you start using it, it does kind of irritate the skin because it is removing the top level of thicker or deadish skin, but then it keeps the healthy glow and it works for acne also.

I have been using it off and on, mostly on for 20 or 25 years and I don't have any wrinkles to speak of. I have 2 tiny crowfeet and barely any forehead wrinkles. That is not to say that I don't need a facelift. I most certainly do need to prop things up a bit. I never used the Retin A, which might be better.

the Glycolic is hard to find. I used to buy it someplace special, but they don't have it anymore. I couldn't find it online. I found out they sell it in India and was buying it from the Indian vendor. I just ordered a big batch again finally. The other day I found some in the local discount store, a fancy french brand that they had a few boxes of. I bought them all and they were stronger and fancier, but inexpensive. My skin feels really soft and young today (that is an illusion, but who cares)

That is my cream of choice and it worked for me. I just need a new gentle staple gun.
 
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calgal99

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@Raspberry. :bigsmile::rofl::giggle: A new gentle staple gun. :heart:

@VEDA, @Raspberry, @Seychelle.... There's a product line (deciem) that has glycolic acid products, along with many other specialized items: https://deciem.com/search?q=glycolic

These folks are really good, they have a wide variety of products/serums etc, and have accessible help for determining what product(s) might be best for you, AND their prices are very reasonable. I've used a few of them, and have been very satisfied, fwiw. :)
 

Raspberry

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@calgal99 That's a great site.. The prices were good on the glycolic acid and I might go there next.

I looked through the site a bit and what really impressed me was the makeup. I like a good foundation that is quality. I use Lancome most of the time, but they are a bit pricey and I know there should be better priced quality. I think this pretty much fits the bill. I might order some but it's hard to tell what my skin tone is.

I was looking for pasty grey, but didn't see that category? Is it a typo?

Maybe I will try to compare my lancome color, which is peagreen sorbet. All seriousness aside, I want to give them a try. Thanks so much for the great tip. I should have asked you before suffering in silence all these years.

Important update... I did order from them. I didn't need the cream this time, but the foundations were very reasonably priced and I ordered the Unicorn Silver with extra horn sheen ... Just kidding, but I think I guessed the right shade. They have one that is a serum, not very much coverage, and the other is more coverage.. I ordered 2 of each because it was free shipping if you ordered a certain amount. Since I never leave the house, it should last a long time.

I will let you guys know how it works out. The prices were very good, free shipping over a certain (low) amount, and I paid with Paypal. It was a delight!!!
 
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superman11

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I think when it comes to a 100% solution to under eye bags that the thing is a blephoraplasty which is a surgical procedure (low risk and minimally invasive)

I have considered this myself. Prep H? Never heard of it, anyone have any further info?
 

Zen_Life II

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Well, here's my 2 cents. I have never found a miracle cream, but I have tried quite a few and this is the routine that I have found works for me (pale skin that tans, brown hair and blue eyes).

SkinCeuticals: C E Ferulic and Hydrating B5 Gel

Jan Marini: Antioxidant Daily Face Protectant SPF 33 & Clean Zyme Face Cleanser (Runner-Up Eminence Organics Mangosteen Cleaner, but the bottle cracks and results in wasted product)

Dermalogica: Super Rich Repair (for aging, sun-damaged skin like mine) and the Pre-Cleanse for make-up removal with Micellar Water

Eminence Organics: Facial Recovery Oil (I mix this in with the Super Rich Repair in the winter for extra hydration)

Face Scrubs: I alternate Kiehl's Microdermabrasion Scrub and Mario Badescu's Strawberry Scrub and use this with my (now discontinued) Clarisonic brush

Skin Peels: Dr. Dennis Gross

Acne: Mario Badescu's Drying Lotion

Eye Cream: Ok, I'm going to be honest here and admit that I have had upper and lower Blepharoplasty. I went to one of those infamous Beverly Hills doctors who is on all of the talk shows and was recommended by several other plastic surgeons and Derms, and he ruined my eyes (changed the shape and took too much skin on the lower lids and not enough on the upper). This was about 5 years ago and since then, I have consulted with "The Go-To Doctor" for reconstructive surgery (which involves adding fat injections (fillers have never worked for me) and costs more than 2x as much as the first surgery). Ladies, I caution you before doing this. It is expensive and if you get a doctor who botches it up, it is extremely costly to repair and you must go to a specialist. I had 4 consults after the initial bad surgery and none of the plastic surgeons would touch my eyes.

That being said, I constantly switch eye creams up due to the lack of skin under my eyes (dark circles, which I never had before). Right now, I am using Ole Henriksen's Banana Bright Eye Cream, which seems to be ok. I have also used SkinCeuticals A.G.E. Eye Complex, Clinique's PEP Smart, Kiehl's Eye Treatment with Avocado; Rodan + Fields Bright Eye Complex; Neutrogena's Hydro Boost and Rapid Wrinkle Repair; Dermalogica's Multivitamin Power Firm (which leaves very dark circles if I don't get enough sleep) and Dermalogica's Age Reversal Eye Complex (decent).


I've have tried about all (my cousin works in the beauty industry, so I often get free samples) and this is what works best for my sun-damaged, dry, aging, acne-prone skin. I have always been a guinea pig and loved to try new products, but I've found that these work the best for me.

Note: None of these products are cheap. I have tried all organic products, less expensive products and more expensive products (I'm looking at you, La Prairie; La Mer; Chanel and YSL), and for me, these are the products that work.

Please ley me know if anyone finds that miracle cream!!!
 

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@Zen_Life II We can order some botox and hypodermics and do it ourselves. You said you like to be a guinea pig. People do that...Maybe we can get some collagen. It will look sooo good! I have some fine tip needles and fishing line just in case, and butterfly bandaids.

You can do just about anything with Duct tape. I knew someone who's dog was hit by a car, and they duct taped him back together because they didn't want to pay for the vet. It worked, apparently. I don't think there were any broken bones, but if there were, they could just use more Duct tape to make a cast.
 

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@Zen_Life II
That is terrible you had a bad surgery! I’m so sorry. Our eyes are so expressive. You have a great attitude.

I have known two women who had upper eyelids lifted, one had a brow lift as well and they both had eye bag fat removed from under their eyes. They both were happy. Really sorry you did not have a good outcome.

I can’t have elective surgery—a bleeding disorder. I do have few wrinkles and they are fine I think they are described that way, not deep ones. I am very close to 70. I can’t handle any scents, so my options are always limited.

I use retinol and C from the dermatologist, which I feel has given me pore less skin and seriously improved the texture of my skin. I use a Clarisonic brush to clean my skin, I do hydrating masks and cover the mirrors— not joking Okay joking ;p I use Peter Thomas Roth hydrating cream- no fragrance and a thicker cream on my neck. I also cleanse with Tatcha oil and use Tatcha rice polish.

I have never found any eye cream which I liked and could then put a concealer over it that actually looked good. All look worse than going without. I think it’s my lack of talent. So I use a very light weight serum cream foundation that is very hydrating, a little cream blush, some mascara and lip cream— I have a lot of color to my lips. Because I have white hair, except for a streak of stubborn dark from my widows peak, it’s best to stay neutral. Most of my life I cleanse well, use the serums etc and forget the makeup.

Someone said you are either a wrinklier or a sagger. Mmm I dunno bout that. What do you think?
 

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@M77 I remember the Preparation H trick. It's the real deal.

What I have used for years is Aqua Glycolic, or Glycolic cream.. It's not the same as the Alpha Hydroxy, which does nothing for me. The Glycolic has a smaller molecular structure and penetrates better.
When you start using it, it does kind of irritate the skin because it is removing the top level of thicker or deadish skin, but then it keeps the healthy glow and it works for acne also.

I have been using it off and on, mostly on for 20 or 25 years and I don't have any wrinkles to speak of. I have 2 tiny crowfeet and barely any forehead wrinkles. That is not to say that I don't need a facelift. I most certainly do need to prop things up a bit. I never used the Retin A, which might be better.

the Glycolic is hard to find. I used to buy it someplace special, but they don't have it anymore. I couldn't find it online. I found out they sell it in India and was buying it from the Indian vendor. I just ordered a big batch again finally. The other day I found some in the local discount store, a fancy french brand that they had a few boxes of. I bought them all and they were stronger and fancier, but inexpensive. My skin feels really soft and young today (that is an illusion, but who cares)

That is my cream of choice and it worked for me. I just need a new gentle staple gun.
Found Glycolic recently at a (local) compounding pharmacy. Works well.
 
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Zen_Life II

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@Zen_Life II
That is terrible you had a bad surgery! I’m so sorry. Our eyes are so expressive. You have a great attitude.

I have known two women who had upper eyelids lifted, one had a brow lift as well and they both had eye bag fat removed from under their eyes. They both were happy. Really sorry you did not have a good outcome.

I can’t have elective surgery—a bleeding disorder. I do have few wrinkles and they are fine I think they are described that way, not deep ones. I am very close to 70. I can’t handle any scents, so my options are always limited.

I use retinol and C from the dermatologist, which I feel has given me pore less skin and seriously improved the texture of my skin. I use a Clarisonic brush to clean my skin, I do hydrating masks and cover the mirrors— not joking Okay joking ;p I use Peter Thomas Roth hydrating cream- no fragrance and a thicker cream on my neck. I also cleanse with Tatcha oil and use Tatcha rice polish.

I have never found any eye cream which I liked and could then put a concealer over it that actually looked good. All look worse than going without. I think it’s my lack of talent. So I use a very light weight serum cream foundation that is very hydrating, a little cream blush, some mascara and lip cream— I have a lot of color to my lips. Because I have white hair, except for a streak of stubborn dark from my widows peak, it’s best to stay neutral. Most of my life I cleanse well, use the serums etc and forget the makeup.

Someone said you are either a wrinklier or a sagger. Mmm I dunno bout that. What do you think?
@karuna - I would say anything that does not involve cutting or knives is worth a shot!

Tatcha and Peter Thomas Roth are good brands Retinol and vitamin c are two of the best products that you can use on skin. I have issues with Retinol because I have dry skin and Retinol dries it out, but a good serum with vitamin c is essential. Vitamins A and E are also helpful (plus they help with hair and nails).

The skin experts say that as we get older we should use less make-up because too much accentuates our wrinkles, creases, dry skin and lack of cell turn-over. It sounds like you are doing things as you should - focusing on the skin and wearing less make-up. I haven't been wearing any make-up since WFH in March (not even when I go out due to the mask requirement and a good pair of sunglasses) and my skin looks much healthier. I think good skincare is key. I have also noticed that my skin appearance (less acne) is much better since I backed-off the make-up. Of course, I don't know anyone where I am right now, so that makes it much easier to run around make-up less - when I go home, it will be a test to see if I can stick with that routine. The older I get, the less I like wearing (heavy) make-up. I wish I had inherited good skin - some CC cream or a tinted moisturizer, some mascara, some lip balm and I'd be out the door. Sadly, that is not the case for me. 😥

I wish that I could show you a picture of my mom. She will be 74 this year and is gorgeous. She has never gone under the knife or had Botox or fillers. Do you remember the TV show Hart to Hart in the 80's? The character Jennifer Hart? Yeah, that's my mom, only she has aged even better than Stephanie Powers because she was never a sun worshipper. She uses the basics - a lot of Lancome, a product called Nerium and a Clinique cleanser. Plus she eats extremely healthy (and has a glass of red wine every night), exercises and takes her vitamins and supplements. For her, that's all she needs. She had 1 bad sunburn her whole life and that was the extent of her sun damage. I wish that I had been as smart as she was.

If you find a good eye cream, please let me know. That is a tool in my arsenal that I have yet to find. I know one with antioxidants, hyaluronic acid and retinol is supposed to be the best. The skin under the eye is so thin, so that's why we need a good product for that area. You mentioned Peter Thomas Roth. I have a sample of a newer product called Peter Thomas Roth Vital E-Microbiome Moisture Defense Eye Cream that is next on my list to try. Have you tried it?

Take care!
Zen
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Zen_Life II

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@unkn0wnkl0ne @karuna - I tried several CBD products when they first came out, Cannuka was one brand, and it didn't work for me. My skin is too dry and it wasn't moisturizing enough.

Here's a somewhat crazy story. I was at a health foods store in Venice one day and met an older woman who ran the place. She had the most gorgeous skin - smooth, few wrinkles and very "plump." I asked her what her secret was and she told my "Egyptian Magic." I kid you not. She said she swears by it and has never used any other moisturizer or skin cream in her life. You can get 2 jars at Costco for less than $40. It's primarily petroleum jelly. Some people also swear by Aloe vera. My grandmother use to. Oh, that's another one - there used to be a cold cream called lady Esther. You could buy it for under $10 at a drug store and my grandmother used it to take her make-up off at night, washed with Ivory soap and then used Lady Esther as a night screen. The woman had gorgeous skin until she died (90). The last time I remember buying it for her was in the 90's at a local pharmacy. I did a search a couple of years ago online to see whatever happened to it and the company was sold, but it's still around and available on Amazon. I have heard the formula has changed, but for the price, it might be worth a shot. :)
 
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