Coronavirus - No cure as of yet

temmuz

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I also feel like this is a bad dream and we are living in it. I have a friend who's convinced it's the end of the world and has thoroughly prepared for it!
With the preliminary data at hand, and unless the virus mutates into equally or deadlier strains, I figure that our worst case scenario is that roughly 20% of 20% of 70% (about 3%) of the world population can perish and then we return to normalcy. While this is a horrific figure, it is definitely not the end of the world.

But if it mutates into other deadly strains and keep doing so, then it could possibly wipe out most of the human race from the face of the planet.

Note: My 3% loss scenario is based on these preliminary (rough) data published so far. https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

1. Around 80% of those who contracted the virus recover without being hospitalized. (20% hospitalized)
2. Around 80% of those hospitalized recover (20% dies). This is preliminary worldwide figure. Started with 90% or so and gradually descends as we go deeper into it. Hopefully this figure will stall at 80% or so.
3. Around 70% (60%-80%) spread of infection is enough for herd immunity.

Corona family of virii do mutate. but I hope it won't mutate into such deadly strains.
 
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Gullible

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M77 that is true but azithromycin also has antiviral properties. Some antibiotics do but not all. We were told for years than anti bacterials and anti virals were completely different and did not overlap but some do. Zinc, vit D and potassium are also good things to take
 

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Firmly believe exercise and sleep are still best practice. (prophylacticlly)
> along with distancing and hygeine.

If even a small portion of the population start gobbling down AB's, could be in for an unexpected surge in bacteria related issues down the road.
Query it with trusted pharmacist/chemist first.
 
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Gullible

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What the china virus is doing is thinning the herd. Yes a few young people have died but virtually all of them had a comorbidity; hypertension, diabetes, obesity, etc. The elderly are most at risk but even among them its mostly those with comorbidities who die. Or who don't get the latest treatment.

While its not good that 3% or 1% or however many will die, what is good is that its almost entirely those who are already ill or have bad conditions. I'm in an age related risk group so I may be one of the 3% but that does not change my view. This will ultimately do good for humans as a whole though not so good for those who get it.

I don't believe it will mutate into something equally deadly. We have not seen that in the past with other pathogens. However, there is a possibility that those who recover might not have permanent immunity and may come down again. Its also possible that it will become a chronic disease like lyme, aids, chicken pox and so many others that go into remission but may come back later.

Such is life, we take the good with the bad. This is what you signed up for. If you don't remember signing up for it then too bad lol. I may not be around much longer for various reasons or you may have to put up with me for years but either way, I'm content. Why worry about what might happen? Good luck all and remember to wear a mask when outside.
 

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Blackbird123

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M77 that is true but azithromycin also has antiviral properties. Some antibiotics do but not all. We were told for years than anti bacterials and anti virals were completely different and did not overlap but some do. Zinc, vit D and potassium are also good things to take
Interesting @Gullible My 19 year old DD has cough variant asthma. Every year she has about 3 flares. Her flares are caused by how her body reacts to a cold virus. She is scripted steriods and azithromycin. Works. The few times over the last few years when she was NOT scripted the azithromycin, the steriods alone did not work.

I totally understand the difference between viral and bacteria. That said, the steroids WITHOUT the azithromycin NEVER kicked her pneumonia or whatever it was/lung infection. Back to finish reading the thread.
 

Marcone

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The vaccine should be done within this year but the virus appears to be in continuous active mutation. I hope scientists will find a cure soon. Things can't go to normal without the vaccines.
 

Gullible

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We can indeed go back to normal without a vaccine. This virus has proven to be only somewhat more dangerous than the ordinary flu which killed 40k up to 80k in usa in a year. Many of the deaths claimed to be from the china flu were really from other causes, it seems. Hydroxychloroquin has worked well and is safe. The studies which claimed otherwise have been debunked and withdrawn. Of course with any drug taking too much will hurt you even if its aspirin
 
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