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Lizdawn

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I’ve always worried about getting pulled over w/ tram blisters from india. I started putting in vitamin bottle. Pain to do that much work but relieves my nerves, so worth it. & hubby won’t find!! Not sure what police would do in that situation so I thought vitamin bottle best bet since unmarked 🤷‍♀️
 

cajunbulldog

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Medicine outside of approved prescription bottles is a crime starting with a ticket and can go up to a felony.The vitamin bottle is a good idea.If they are interested they can demand a blood draw and anything without a prescription is a offense in addition to a possible dui.
 

calgal99

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Never, never NEVER let the police search you, your home, your car, without a warrant*. The police are not "your friends," and even if it feels like you're making yourself seem guilty of something, just DON'T LET THEM SEARCH without a warrant!! If you're in your car, you must give them your license, insurance and registration. That's ALL! Don't let them search your car, ask for a lawyer then STFU. Ask for a lawyer, but then STFU. PERIOD. I know it's hard, but train yourself if necessary. STFU. (Signed, a long-ago ex-cop!!!)

(I know this was about having pills on your person, but learn your rights, don't help the cops. The ACLU website has lots of info on this. Go, read and learn. Don't get busted if you don't have to!!)

*Note - one of our "tricks" when I was working patrol was, when we had to take a person into custody and thus had to tow their vehicle, we could legally do an "inventory" of the vehicle before it was towed (so we had a record of what was there at the time, in case stuff later "disappeared" from the tow lot.) Anything illegal we found during the "inventory" could be the basis for additional legal charges. {I can't tell you how many people were charged using this process, and they almost always got convicted in this way.} So don't let your car get towed, have someone who will come and drive it away for you!!!**

** Also, if you've been in a bad car accident, this BS usually won't happen. I'm talking about "routine traffic stops" and the crap that can happen there.
 

Chancer

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If the mail is still sealed then they can't open it without a warrant. I know in the UK tampering with Royal Mail is a serious offense and would also apply to LE.
 

jaders

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Never, never NEVER let the police search you, your home, your car, without a warrant*. The police are not "your friends," and even if it feels like you're making yourself seem guilty of something, just DON'T LET THEM SEARCH without a warrant!! If you're in your car, you must give them your license, insurance and registration. That's ALL! Don't let them search your car, ask for a lawyer then STFU. Ask for a lawyer, but then STFU. PERIOD. I know it's hard, but train yourself if necessary. STFU. (Signed, a long-ago ex-cop!!!)

(I know this was about having pills on your person, but learn your rights, don't help the cops. The ACLU website has lots of info on this. Go, read and learn. Don't get busted if you don't have to!!)

*Note - one of our "tricks" when I was working patrol was, when we had to take a person into custody and thus had to tow their vehicle, we could legally do an "inventory" of the vehicle before it was towed (so we had a record of what was there at the time, in case stuff later "disappeared" from the tow lot.) Anything illegal we found during the "inventory" could be the basis for additional legal charges. {I can't tell you how many people were charged using this process, and they almost always got convicted in this way.} So don't let your car get towed, have someone who will come and drive it away for you!!!**

** Also, if you've been in a bad car accident, this BS usually won't happen. I'm talking about "routine traffic stops" and the crap that can happen there.

So, in this spot, do you have the right to refuse to let them tow? Do they even ask or do they just do it? I guess it would s depend on where your car was located at the time of the arrest. A car accident which left it in the road would be different than a routine pull over?

Thanks for all the great advice! I definitely don’t expect this to happen to myself, but I’d rather know in the minuscule chance that it did.

And I certainly think carrying stuff in innocuous bottles like allergy or vitamin pill bottles is a great way to go. If a person was in a car accident, at least the pills would be very unlikely to be inspected that way.
 

calgal99

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@jaders If you are conscious when the police arrive (!), you have the right to tell the police that you 1) want to call someone to come take your vehicle (if it's driveable) or 2) choose your own towing company to call. (If you're not conscious, well, then, you'll just have to deal with it...) The "call for wreckers" is the generic police response, whether for an accident or for a traffic stop when you're being taken into custody - the police need to move your vehicle off the roadway, and if it's their decision, they need to inventory the vehicle... I cannot tell you how many times a drunk driver (or one with outstanding felony warrants who went straight to the jail, etc.) tried to claim that $000s were in a briefcase in their back seat, when the wrecker company took their car away. (Or stole their collection of BTO* cassette tapes, or whatever.) Thus, the inventory, which is not in itself problematic, unless you have something in the vehicle that is unlawful, is actually a good/decent thing, for your protection....

And yeah, unless there's some reason (like, you're headed to jail) the popo aren't going to check out everything on your person... I used to carry a couple of pills in my changepurse, no one ever bothered to even look. (No, I was never arrested, lol. But I'm talking about TSA, going into controlled-access buildings, etc.)

* Bachmann-Turner Overdrive. LOL.
 

spex

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If I’m traveling and want to bring a few meds along, or if I’m just driving home from my PO Box with my latest order, I stash that schedule 2 or 3 in the trunk. Just in case of any unforeseen situations that might involve police presence, like getting pulled over for who knows what. I’ve heard that trunk searches involve an extra step for police, like a warrant. Hey, what do I know?

And if for some reason I had cops crawling my car and they found something? Like the wise owls on here say, mums the word. Hey I don’t know how them pills got there - must be somebody else’s stuff.
 

LemonDiesel

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Yeah keep the meds in the bottle! If you get found with a bag of pills not in a rx bottle, or have it at least on you, definitely they can really screw you depending on who your dealing with. When I was younger I got pulled over and had for some dumbass reason put 2 days worth of meds on my seat, in plain view (nvm in my console thing anyways in plain site, I was young and really didnt think much of it until I saw the officer who pulled me over for speeding just stair and then i looked and remember being like ohhhhh that doesnt look good lol. Anyways it was controlled back when they used to prescribe meds when you needed them, but it was a controlled substanced.
Didnt really mater what i said they didnt believe me and off the fact they saw them, I tried to explain calmly. But until i was able to make a phone call I was being booked at the police station. They were further going to have my car impounded my car luckily i had my gf with me at the time and she was able to at least able to prevent that. They wanted to and had started the paperwork on at least a possession charge and were trying to get me to admit i was under the influence...I swear on my life i was not. Point being best keep it in a prescription bottle. It really if anyone comes across pills that are not in a bottle, generally i think LE is going to assume the worst, however there are many variables, that its impossible to say for sure. I know things are a bit different then they were back 10-15 years ago, people are getting high now on hard drugs in very very visible places, and not a care in the world. 5-10 years ago, maybe its me but if you were smoking (bad drugs) i cant imagine that not landing you in jail, "things done changed". Sorry for the long rambling story, thing is if i hadnt been a young college student with a really upstanding kind of citizen family member I doubt it would have turned out well.
 

froce

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As long as it’s not a controlled substance I would not worry about this.
 

calgal99

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As long as it’s not a controlled substance I would not worry about this.
Are you a white male with no outstanding warrants or holds? If so, then you're likely okay. If not, please reconsider whether/ how much time you'd like to spend in jail, while you (try to) get everything worked out.

Put more clearly, don't blow off these recommendations from such a varied commentor base. It's a terrible, sad truth, that cops can make your life difficult if they choose to, and while you might ultimately prevail after an extended court case, consider the interim steps involved in what I just wrote. Don't make youself a target, just because you think, "well, it's not a controlled substance."

(I had a dear friend who was charged with possession of a controlled substance, which was actually just a bottle of loose Vitamin C tabs. She spent two years, and thousands of dollars, to get that resolved. She was, not surprisingly, a Black woman, but she, surprisingly, had the means to not only defend her case, but get reimbursement of court costs, and damages as well. But, why risk this???)
 
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jaders

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As long as it’s not a controlled substance I would not worry about this.
Are you a white male with no outstanding warrants or holds? If so, then you're likely okay. If not, please reconsider whether/ how much time you'd like to spend in jail, while you (try to) get everything worked out.

Put more clearly, don't blow off these recommendations from such a varied commentor base. It's a terrible, sad truth, that cops can make your life difficult if they choose to, and while you might ultimately prevail after an extended court case, consider the interim steps involved in what I just wrote. Don't make youself a target, just because you think, "well, it's not a controlled substance."

(I had a dear friend who was charged with possession of a controlled substance, which was actually just a bottle of loose Vitamin C tabs. She spent two years, and thousands of dollars, to get that resolved. She was, not surprisingly, a Black woman, but she, surprisingly, had the means to not only defend her case, but get reimbursement of court costs, and damages as well. But, why risk this???)

I hope she got a LOT of damages!! What BS…☹️
 

calgal99

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@jaders, she got court costs and damages (a minor amount, basically lost wages/time spent fighting it.) But she was still satisfied - it's always good when you win one over the "bad guys." (Remind me sometime and I'll PM you about my experience dealing with a train that blocked a roadway for a VERY long time... I think we've all had that experience once or twice, being stuck in traffic while a train moves it's cargo, and blocks up all the traffic!!) ;)
 

Peanutheadm

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I have photographs of my prescription bottles on my phone. I snap a new pic every month when I pick up scripts.

I carry a smorgasbord in one pharmacy pill bottle - several controlled, some non, advil, melatonin, who-the-hell-knows.

No way in hell I'd carry around every bottle of my meds with me every where I go. I also carry several days worth - cause who knows where I'll end up. I'm a wild one.

I figure the pics are better than nothing. And might be enough to get me out of a bad situation.

I figure, it will all come down to the mood of the cop, the reason I am pulled over in the first damn place, etc.

What do you all think of my brilliant plan?
 

jaders

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I have photographs of my prescription bottles on my phone. I snap a new pic every month when I pick up scripts.

I carry a smorgasbord in one pharmacy pill bottle - several controlled, some non, advil, melatonin, who-the-hell-knows.

No way in hell I'd carry around every bottle of my meds with me every where I go. I also carry several days worth - cause who knows where I'll end up. I'm a wild one.

I figure the pics are better than nothing. And might be enough to get me out of a bad situation.

I figure, it will all come down to the mood of the cop, the reason I am pulled over in the first damn place, etc.

What do you all think of my brilliant plan?

To me the biggest thing is to not “allow” a cop to search the car in the first place. They say to never give voluntary permission and if they don’t see anything that can be a justification for a search, they shouldn’t have any reason to do so. I think even if you’re pulled over for a dui, I don’t think that’s grounds for a search is it? I’m not sure on that one. 🤔

I carry my “controlled” meds in a probiotics bottle. Personally, considering I get pulled over about once every 10-15 years (usually for not wearing my seat belt) I think the odds of having this other issue come up is pretty negligible.

My city is rampant with crime, sadly. That’s another reason I don’t worry too much about the cops. They definitely have their hands full…☹️
 

cajunbulldog

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@jaders When I was working I was on 24 hour call so all my prescrptions were kept in their own bottles in my go bag and I also do not want my vehicle searched so they gonna need a warrant to get in my truck.
 

heavymetalviolet

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Never, never NEVER let the police search you, your home, your car, without a warrant*. The police are not "your friends," and even if it feels like you're making yourself seem guilty of something, just DON'T LET THEM SEARCH without a warrant!! If you're in your car, you must give them your license, insurance and registration. That's ALL! Don't let them search your car, ask for a lawyer then STFU. Ask for a lawyer, but then STFU. PERIOD. I know it's hard, but train yourself if necessary. STFU. (Signed, a long-ago ex-cop!!!)

(I know this was about having pills on your person, but learn your rights, don't help the cops. The ACLU website has lots of info on this. Go, read and learn. Don't get busted if you don't have to!!)

*Note - one of our "tricks" when I was working patrol was, when we had to take a person into custody and thus had to tow their vehicle, we could legally do an "inventory" of the vehicle before it was towed (so we had a record of what was there at the time, in case stuff later "disappeared" from the tow lot.) Anything illegal we found during the "inventory" could be the basis for additional legal charges. {I can't tell you how many people were charged using this process, and they almost always got convicted in this way.} So don't let your car get towed, have someone who will come and drive it away for you!!!**

** Also, if you've been in a bad car accident, this BS usually won't happen. I'm talking about "routine traffic stops" and the crap that can happen there.
This happened to me. I was T-boned by a girl going 70 or so and everything in my car went flying (some of it out onto the road). My purse was open and stuff flew out and landed on the passenger side floorboard. I ended up being taken away by ambulance (concussion, broken nose) and local friends came and gathered the items that had gotten strewn around the highway. I took my purse. A tow took the car and impounded it. When we went next day to pull it out of impound, I found some scattered papers still inside on the floor...including a carefully wrapped package of alp that I had gotten just the day before and had shoved into my purse (didn't get a chance to stash them at home and still had them on me, but nobody found them luckily). Lesson learned. What I normally do is take my shipments and put them into my regular prescription bottle so it looks like part of those instead of leaving them wrapped or in blister packs.
 

heavymetalviolet

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I have photographs of my prescription bottles on my phone. I snap a new pic every month when I pick up scripts.

I carry a smorgasbord in one pharmacy pill bottle - several controlled, some non, advil, melatonin, who-the-hell-knows.

No way in hell I'd carry around every bottle of my meds with me every where I go. I also carry several days worth - cause who knows where I'll end up. I'm a wild one.

I figure the pics are better than nothing. And might be enough to get me out of a bad situation.

I figure, it will all come down to the mood of the cop, the reason I am pulled over in the first damn place, etc.

What do you all think of my brilliant plan?

To me the biggest thing is to not “allow” a cop to search the car in the first place. They say to never give voluntary permission and if they don’t see anything that can be a justification for a search, they shouldn’t have any reason to do so. I think even if you’re pulled over for a dui, I don’t think that’s grounds for a search is it? I’m not sure on that one. 🤔

I carry my “controlled” meds in a probiotics bottle. Personally, considering I get pulled over about once every 10-15 years (usually for not wearing my seat belt) I think the odds of having this other issue come up is pretty negligible.

My city is rampant with crime, sadly. That’s another reason I don’t worry too much about the cops. They definitely have their hands full…☹️
Me too. I speed a lot and hardly ever wear my belt, so if they're gonna get me, it's for one of those things. Most of them are usually busy with the crime in my area too, but unless you are in one of the areas known for overzealous cops (one place near me has police watching for you going 1 mile over the limit so they can stop you) or it's quota time (beginning of month, end of month, holidays) you're generally ok.
 

RunRunRiver

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@heavymetalviolet I do this too. I order something similar to what I’m prescribed and put them in my prescription bottles. When I’m out and about I only keep a couples days emergency supply “in case” something happens … but that’s it. I’ve had too many interesting incidents where my purse was stolen, lost or something else. Now I’d rather have the piece of mind of only losing a couples days worth or at least having a few days worth on me in case of emergency
 

Musing

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Rush Limbaugh was stopped by customs for having Viagra in a labeled prescription bottle that had someone else's name on it. He had the doctor put someone else name on it for privacy.

TSA looks through my baggage all the time as my airport does not have a large xray. They do not seem to care if things are in a plastic bag. It is certainly easy enough to print a label not that I would advocate doing that.
Excuse my ignorance - you would not advocate printing a label with the real substance inside the bottle or something that looks similar but not controlled possibly?
 
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