1000% agree with all you said. I can't believe pharmacists think they have ANY right to say ANYTHING! That actually seems like a violation of HIPPA to me. It's none of their damn business when you have a legitimate script, for them to ask any questions NOT related to filling it, again seems like they're violating your right to privacy. I would'a told em I'd sue their ass over that...glad you "unloaded" on them! Also glad you found a new pharmacy. I'm SO thankful I have a small locally owned pharmacy who is more than reasonable about all of this. They actually allowed me to pick up a narcotic script for my housebound neighbor just because they knew both of us.What we are FINALLY hearing about, and the FDA has finally started making clear reversals, is the War on Pain Patients. Jumping Jesus am I tortured with hoops and obstacle courses. Just switched my pharmacy the other day because I was harassed on a certain medication that states “as needed” when I’ve been on the med for many, many years. If I have to take 8 pills as needed then I take them as needed. Pharmacist actually was asking if I ever reduce dose and try to get off and shit. I went nuts on the lady and now I have a new pharmacy. My hydro is written as fake 1 every 8 hours, but the other pain is as needed and now that gets flagged in the system to harass if they refill is done over x amount of months.
The Opiod crisis is bad, but that door has already been opened. Pandora box began and the cats outta the bag. Now with fent so cheap and easy to make, press, or cut, shits only gotten worse. They make it such a damn pain in the ass to get a simple script filled I can see why people would take the chance on it.
I won’t lie. I’ve thought about it myself. I get narcan every month I get my script filled. At least I’d have that... but I digress and my point is there is a reason people take the fent risk and the unfortunate consequences have been worse than the days when it was easier to get prescribed medication.
The entire war on drugs needs to ****ing end.
There was a time in my life when getting my meds was very difficult at times, so I resorted to poppy pods. Twice I got pretty scared about the amount I was "feeling" since it's really impossible to know what the exact dose is, and there can be some errant pod that's somehow more potent. I'm thinking I could've administered narcan to myself as I came close to going to the ER. Luckily both times I rode it out and was ok. But I'd rather self administer narcan, than go thru the hassle at an ER and have a bunch of "questions." I don't play with my meds anymore tho either - as long as I can get the dose that works for me, I just stick with that amount. But I agree, that since we're having to supplement and there's always a chance it isn't what it's supposed to be, it would be good to have the narcan around. It sounds pretty expensive tho. I guess there's worse ways to die too...Yea... Honestly I get it just to get it. I’m same with you in that I’m prescribed a set amount except I do order things on the side in the event of needing more. With the amount of fent out in things now it’s better safe than sorry.
Wow. I seem to remember you telling about that a while ago. So narcan just basically replaces any opiate at the receptor sites? Does it last a while? Like a half hour after administering the narcan, could you take a dose of an opiate to get out of WD?I would rather die than get jabbed with narcan again. That stuff sucks. I felt like I was going to have a heart attack. Jackasses juiced me in the ambulance when I said I had some MJ earlier before a fall. Wtf. Then I go through WD at the hospital waiting to get out.
But I’m assuming you took a dose of an opiate right away when you got home. (Too personal?) Just wondering if the narcan continued to block for that long or could the opiate bring you out from WDs?
Totally agree. If you were awake and aware enough to tell them whether or not you needed the narcan, they certainly shouldn't be doing that willy-nilly (or without your permission at all!) If you were unconscious, I could see it. It's a crazy world where whatever is the "issue d'jour" brings out all sorts of inappropriate behaviors, as we're all being subjected to IMHO...@jaders, I don't recall. But at the time, I would have probably taken a dose before bedtime, and another sometime before getting up in the morning. So, to me it seemed like it obviated my bedtime dose, and I get hit 12+ hours after my previous dose. Narcan might keep you from dying if you took too much, but if you're feeling OK it's certainly going to make you feel worse.
While I delight in complaint as much as the next person, I'm also trying to bring the cavalier use of narcan under any circumstances. I didn't admit to opioids, or taking too much MJ, they just went and juiced me. I don't like just any old thing shot into me. The so-called epidemic (as compared to guns and booze those legal killers? Not so bad actually), gives the wrong people too much latitude To screw you over - all in good-faith of course
I’ve heard that some states are actually REQUIRING anyone with an opiate script to get narcan. It’s complete bs imho because it’s again assuming that most folks who RX’d opiates are likely to abuse them which the numbers certainly offer little facts to substantiate that.My state doesn’t offer Narcan with opiate prescriptions, but if they did, I could see filling it once, to have in a real emergency. I would probably keep it in my car, in case I ever could save someone. This might just be me, but I wouldn’t take a Narcan pen every month, from the pharmacy. In my state, they would definitely use it against you. When I see my pain doctor, he has a printout of every single prescription I filled in the last 30 days, on his desk, at each appointment. I know they are checking to make sure that you aren’t “doctor shopping,” but if I had 1 Narcan, filled every month, he would probably throw me out! And he is a nice guy!
@jadersI’ve heard that some states are actually REQUIRING anyone with an opiate script to get narcan. It’s complete bs imho because it’s again assuming that most folks who RX’d opiates are likely to abuse them which the numbers certainly offer little facts to substantiate that.
I work in public service tho and our managers are getting trained to administer narcan as quite a few folks use our restrooms to “use.” Another reason to have safe injection sites and give addicts their drugs. It would stop SO MUCH crime, in my opinion...
I agree with everything you said except this. I see no sign of the War on Pain Patients getting anything but worse. I live in a state where this shit has been going on since 2005. The forced tapers that are happening to most pain patients now were happening where I live in 2009. You virtually cannot get an opioid pill in my town. Not legally anyway. Our hospital is "opioid free" and the pain clinic doesn't do prescriptions at all. Emergency rooms will not dispense any other controlled substances without pee-testing you first. Oh, your positive for marijuana? Well, you'll just have to keep having that panic attack, sorry, because they're not going to give you anything. They're just going to send you home, probably with a note in your file that you're a drug-seeker.What we are FINALLY hearing about, and the FDA has finally started making clear reversals, is the War on Pain Patients.