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Narcotics: It is Time For Me To Say Goodbye

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jaders

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@jaders It is a weird how people can don't get physically dependent. I wish there was more research into why that is for those specific people but these days they only spend money to research something if it will make them money.

@Synecdoche People who don't recognize the difference between a physical dependence and a psychological dependence is a pet peeve for me.

The ignorance about drugs and more specifically, opiates in general, is pretty astounding. Even amongst those who either use them or the prescribers as well.

There’s always this assumption that all the power is just in the drug itself. And I maintain that it’s some sort of synergy between a particular person’s brain and a particular drug, where the answers lay.

I did read one time where an addiction doc said that the folks most likely to get addicted to opiates become energized by them, whereas folks who have the typical or expected response such as sleepiness and sort of out of it,” were not likely to become addicted. Certainly there’s something at play there.

I agree that a lot of unbiased studies should be going on. We went from thinking pain meds were bad. Then they realized that folks weren’t getting good pain treatment so they started being extremely loose with the rx’s. Then enough folks did get into trouble (not really knowing what they were dealing with either) and they’re were lots of deaths from this ignorance. So now we’re back to “they’re all bad “ again.

Yeah - we need to understand a lot more about addiction in general, and as is often pointed out - how physical dependence works. To me it has absolutely nothing to do with addiction.
 
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Cowardly Cop

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Yeah - we need to understand a lot more about addiction in general, and as is often pointed out - how physical dependence works. To me it has absolutely nothing to do with addiction.
physical dependance of opioids are mostly related to the CNS depressant effects; they slow your bowels down, and dampen all CNS responses. so when you stop, your nervous system is jittery; so you can't sleep, you sweat (plenty of water held up in the bowels), get RLS, and your general demeanor deteriorates - and your bowels start running again. these two effects account for all my WD symptoms. benzo's do similar things, and it's WD has many similarities too.

I also agree that physical dependance isn't addiction. but we're not the ones wielding the terms.
 

Santa's little helper

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More bad news at the border
Fentanyl comes through the western ocean ports and filters up through Mexico. Not via personal letters.
 

jaders

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More bad news at the border
Fentanyl comes through the western ocean ports and filters up through Mexico. Not via personal letters.
I agree. And because of the amount of money made from drug selling, it usually involves actually buying off certain individuals who will look the other way for a "cut." :confused:
 

jaders

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don't forget that the fent mules are mostly US citizens. so buy american!

anyway, coming up on my 1 year anniversary! if I can do it, anyone can.

the problem for me is that "i don't want to." :unsure: But it's sure great to see someone get out from under this sometimes torturous racket!
 

LilyLove44

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@jaders I’m in the same boat. I’d love to not have to rely on pills to get through the day and be living a life that revolves around anxiously waiting for orders to arrive. However, I don’t want to quit yet. I know my body is dependant on the pain medications I take and I can’t stand a life of pain. If I didn’t take them I wouldn’t be able to move, as a mum of 3 I need to be active and able to get up and going in the morning.

To me though I think pain medication has been normalised. I grew up watching my father (since passed) taking pain killers multiple times a day for Ankylosing Spondilitis a very painful spinal condition. He was on multiple strong pain medications and it became the norm to see dad by his medicine cabinet swallowing a cocktail of tablets. I also remember seeing how agitated he would get if the pharmacy messed his prescription up, and used to wonder why is he over reacting it’s no big deal? Now I understand exactly why he reacted the way he did as I’m living it myself.
 
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