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calgal99

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@ethom topamax is very hit or miss. It’s actually an anticonvulsant with quite a few off label uses. It does work for some people but we call it dumbpomax in the medical field for a reason. It tends to have a bad habit of really messing with cognitive function, particularly when you first start taking it. I’m a long term migraine sufferer and have tried just about every prophylactic treatment there is, beta blockers, Botox, you name it. I have never had any luck. The ONLY thing that helps with my migraines are triptans and sometimes excedrin. Don’t buy the migraine version of excedrin, it’s more expensive and same active ingredients as plain excedrin. Also don’t use on a regular basis because it will cause rebound headaches. Eletriptan is my favorite triptan but I also use imitrex sometimes. The bad part is insurance limits how much you can have per month. So I alternate between the two.

GD how much do I HATE insurance companies??!?!!??? Just imagine a world where you went to your doctor, then to your pharmacy, and (assuming you even have insurance) they just pay their part of the cost, huh? What a socialist, crappy system that would be, where insurance companies couldn't step into the middle, take their $$ cut, and, oh yeah, decide whether or not you could have the meds your doctor wanted you to have?? Ugggggghhhhhhh!!!:swear::swear::angry::angry::angry::angry::angry:
 

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GD how much do I HATE insurance companies??!?!!??? Just imagine a world where you went to your doctor, then to your pharmacy, and (assuming you even have insurance) they just pay their part of the cost, huh? What a socialist, crappy system that would be, where insurance companies couldn't step into the middle, take their $$ cut, and, oh yeah, decide whether or not you could have the meds your doctor wanted you to have?? Ugggggghhhhhhh!!!:swear::swear::angry::angry::angry::angry::angry:
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Sorry for the reply over a year later. I was involved earlier in the thread, but I guess I lost track. I filled a prescription which was a topical ointment, and they filled it, but the papers stapled to the script said “Plan Limit.” This was a tiny tube marked 15g. I said to myself, wow, this must be some expensive stuff if they are only going to pay for one tiny tube. It is like a quarter of tube of toothpaste. So, out of curiosity, I looked up the price. I expected it to be north of $700 - $800. Not at the pharmacy I used, but at others on the web, the same size tube was under $15! I guess I should be happy, but WTF? They won’t refill a $15 med even once. I have a relatively low dose of a popular pain killer. Can you believe they will cover it if I take the version with Tylenol, but if I want the same med, without the dangerous Tylenol (I only say dangerous, because I take it 3 times a day). So if I don’t want to take 500mg x 3 of Tylenol every single day, I have to pay for the whole thing! And even though it is a generic, it is a lot more than the $15 tube.

Between the insanity with squeezing doctors (this is a pain specialist) to not give pain killers for more than a week, the pharmacy told me it is “back-ordered.” I asked what time are we talking about. They told me “it could be a week, it could be months!” Obviously I can’t just stop taking it, so my doctor was nice enough to re-send it to another pharmacy. My state is all electronic prescriptions. Nothing, even non-controlled meds are sent by electronic prescription. It is a pain in the neck, because if it is out of stock, you don’t have a paper prescription to take to another pharmacy. And the big name chain cannot even transfer anything controlled to another of their own stores!

Also, my daughter has to take a schedule 2 medication. The pharmacy that I have been using for 20 years filled it once, but the next time I needed to fill it for her, they flatly said “No, we won’t fill that.” It had nothing to do with me. I know all the pharmacists, and the assistants, etc. and have a great relationship with all of the staff. They just made a decision, at the corporate level, to not bother. I was able to fill it elsewhere, but same hassle with her doctor having to resend it to a different store. And it was not one of the demonized meds. It wasn’t even a pk. These pharmacies are starting to get the same pressure that the doctors are getting.

I know with my pk’s, they start to ration them, and towards the end of the year, they have problems getting certain meds. I don’t understand the thought process behind the government forcing manufacturers to stop making meds, and create shortages. I would never go on the street for my med, but I know people that would. They are really helping the problem. We are not talking about 80mg 0xy. It isn’t even any size 0xy. The dosage is so low, I used to get the same med from my dentist! The whole system is going off the rails. Sorry for the rant, especially so much later, after the thread sort of stopped.

I thought it was worth posting that if you jump through all the hoops, get numerous MRI’s (all with large deductibles) and have a doctor that will help with chronic pain, now you have to deal with the pharmacy hassling you too!
 

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I can recommend a couple things for pain. Corydalis extract for one, its not probably going to take away all severe pain but its very good for mild or medium pain and it also helps you go to sleep. I always use the crystals which are more concentrated. About 1/16 tsp is all you need, maybe less. If you get the 10x or 40x which are weaker, just use the amount they tell you. I use a tiny spoon of crystals might be 1/32 lol. Besides that there is california poppy, said to help a bit, there are a couple others I can't think of at the moment.
 

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I can recommend a couple things for pain. Corydalis extract for one, its not probably going to take away all severe pain but its very good for mild or medium pain and it also helps you go to sleep. I always use the crystals which are more concentrated. About 1/16 tsp is all you need, maybe less. If you get the 10x or 40x which are weaker, just use the amount they tell you. I use a tiny spoon of crystals might be 1/32 lol. Besides that there is california poppy, said to help a bit, there are a couple others I can't think of at the moment.


I have never heard of it. is it otc i have been using over th counter lidocain but i haven.t been helping much
 

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I have never heard of it. is it otc i have been using over th counter lidocain but i haven.t been helping much

Its not sold locally you have to look online. I got mine from ebay but the morons who run it ban stuff all the time so no telling if its still there or on amazon. Look for corydalis online if its not there, crystals are best because the less concentrated stuff doesn't taste that great.
 

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I can recommend a couple things for pain. Corydalis extract for one, its not probably going to take away all severe pain but its very good for mild or medium pain and it also helps you go to sleep. I always use the crystals which are more concentrated. About 1/16 tsp is all you need, maybe less. If you get the 10x or 40x which are weaker, just use the amount they tell you. I use a tiny spoon of crystals might be 1/32 lol. Besides that there is california poppy, said to help a bit, there are a couple others I can't think of at the moment.

Gullible, I just want to say a quick thank you- I checked out Corydalis on your recommendation and have been taking it about a week and I can see some improvement.
It's not like a huge sweeping wave of relief (God, don't we all wish for that feeling?!?) but it does help take the edge off of mild to moderate pain.
Thank you for sharing it with us! :)

Edit to add: @Dosbabe, I found mine on Amazon. Good luck and I hope it works for you.
 

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Hello, hello! I can't take NSAIDs (like aspirin, naproxen, ibuprofen, etc.) because of stomach issues. I can't take opioids or opiates because they make me feel crummy. (Small doses of codeine DO help immensely, but doctors aren't writing it much anymore.) So, I take Tylenol. And every afternoon I take 4 teaspoons of Everclear mixed in 7Up. 4 teaspoons. No more, no less.

It helps as much as anything else....
 

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I had never heard of corydalis,had a quick search and one said, "Corydalis as a remedy for fibromyalgia." If that is true I'd like to find some,any sites where you can buy it?It could end up being seriously helpful for some of us denied regular decent pain relief.
 

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I had never heard of corydalis,had a quick search and one said, "Corydalis as a remedy for fibromyalgia." If that is true I'd like to find some,any sites where you can buy it?It could end up being seriously helpful for some of us denied regular decent pain relief.

I got mine through Amazon. :)
 

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Hi there!

1 of the very best non opiod pain relievers I've ever had, still use, is Toradol/Ketorolac but only in the injection form... The oral form is no better than Advil or Aleve but the injection.... oh my it's like magic!!

The thing w/this med is you can only have an injection like 2x a month.. Some docs won't scribe it for self injection use at home because you can destroy your liver if used too much but if you have a good relationship w/your doc ask him/her to give you a shot the next time you see him/her.. You'll feel relief pretty quickly. If you like it you could ask your doc to give you or call you in a script for some so you can give yourself a shot at home.

The thing w/this meds is you have to inject it into muscle & the medicine burns, but only for like 10-30seconds.... I've had this by iv & in various muscles all over my body. The least painful place to get or do the injection is your butt muscle, kind of high up near your hip..
It's not hard to give yourself the injection either. You just load the syringe, wipe the area w/alcohol & let it dry then quickly poke yourself in the bum & push the medicine in slowly...

I have severe chronic pain of several kinds body wide & because of something really bad the a surgeon did to me w/o my consent or knowledge I now also have migraines to add to my list...
Compounding my fun physical/health issues is the state I live in which is the #1 strictest as far as scribing pain relief or benzos... Everyone was basically made to go completely off or downgrade to things that don't work well for severe chronic pain... When all I had to worry about was my spinalchord injuries/surgeries the med was fine as long as I had the Toradol injections & diazepam. Together the 3 meds worked synergistically & helped all of my symptoms... But now I can't get the adequate amount of the pain reliever or the diazepam so I have to help myself.
I do get the injections though, thank God... I would be a flat out wreck w/o them. If you need an emergency back up to have on hand Toradol/Ketorolac injections are AH-MAZING!! And, they are just a very strong anti-inflammatory so not even in the opiod class of meds at all. Docs are just Leary of scribing it because yrs ago the NFL got busted because their docs were shooting up the players way too much & too often, resulting in many of them having permanent liver &/or kidney diseases.. So let your Doc know you know this is just an emergency back up for you to have at home. If he'll scribe you 2-3 a month or a box of 10 every 3 months, that would be great.

Also, I have my doc give me a shot every month when I go in for my monthly visit so I can save my home stash as much as possible.. It comes in different strengths & I get the stronger one which is a 60mg in a 2ml vial... If your Doc will let you have this ask the pharmacy for the thinnest gauge needle that will work for an inter muscular injection into your bum muscle.. The needle doesn't hurt going in but I'm a weenie & have a lot of scar tissue buildup in my body so so I ask for the thinnest gauge so I don't get too grossed out...

If you have any ?'s about this med let me know. It has been a huge life saver for me over the years, esp now when all docs won't scribe regular pain meds... I also alternate Advil or Aleve on the inbetween days but remember you absolutely cannot take any anti-inflammatory like Advil/Aleve 24hrs before or after a Toradol injection & you definitely can't take any when you get a shot...
Hopefully you'll get a few days to weeks of relief from these injections..
On a very rare once in a blue moon occasion if I give myself a shot & am not doing any better w/in 24 hrs, I will give myself another injection. So 2 injections in a 48hr time slot. Sometimes if I have to do a 2nd injection I'll only use 1/2 the vial so 30mg's/1ml. This seems to do the trick!

Anyhow I wish you the best of luck in finding something that helps you. I hope your Doc will give you an injection of this & if you like it, he'll allow you to give them to yourself at home! I've never tried anything that works as well as a Toradol injection that's a non opiod, it's that good!

Happy fall! Take care,
SP
 
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tommygun

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Dont think thats available in the UK,my gp wouldnt inject me with it,def wouldnt want to be messing with injections myself.
Best i can hope for with some of my pain is going to PM and getting injected with something there,i will look into Corydalis tho,thanks @Mrs Parker.
 

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Yoga and caffeine and ibuprofen is sometimes a perfect combo. I think Kratom has really helped me with pain, especially the green. The trick to Kratom is less is more. Like 1/2 a teaspoon. It won’t make you “high” but you’ll notice clearer head and less pain.
 

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This comment isn’t related to hardcore migraines, but if you are someone who suffers from regular headaches, you might want to try trigger point massage to see if that helps. I once had a non-stop headache for six months, and I finally figured out that it was from trigger points in my scalp (trigger points are contraction nodules in the muscles).

I used “The Trigger Point Therapy Workbook” by Clair Davies to guide me and I messaged the trigger points several time a day for a few months, and, fortunately, by doing that I was able to completely cure the headache. That book is actually an excellent book for treating many types of muscle pain and other types of pain that can be caused by tight muscles (e.g. I discovered that tight muscles in my forearms were causing the tendonitis in my elbows) and I would highly recommend it if you have any chronic pain that you think could be muscle related.
 

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This comment isn’t related to hardcore migraines, but if you are someone who suffers from regular headaches, you might want to try trigger point massage to see if that helps. I once had a non-stop headache for six months, and I finally figured out that it was from trigger points in my scalp (trigger points are contraction nodules in the muscles).

I used “The Trigger Point Therapy Workbook” by Clair Davies to guide me and I messaged the trigger points several time a day for a few months, and, fortunately, by doing that I was able to completely cure the headache. That book is actually an excellent book for treating many types of muscle pain and other types of pain that can be caused by tight muscles (e.g. I discovered that tight muscles in my forearms were causing the tendonitis in my elbows) and I would highly recommend it if you have any chronic pain that you think could be muscle related.

I'm having a hell of a time with sinus headaches but I am also starting to get constant pain in my neck and the back of my head, which I know is just caused by the pain.tension of the sinus issues. I will DEFINITELY check out this book you used. Thanks so much!!
 
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I'm having a hell of a time with sinus headaches but I am also starting to get constant pain in my neck and the back of my head, which I know is just caused by the pain.tension of the sinus issues. I will DEFINITELY check out this book you used. Thanks so much!!

No problem. :) However, I should mention that I found the neck to be a very hard place to do self-massage on, just going by the directions in Clair Davies’ book. But, fortunately, I found a neck massaging device in a Relax the Back store that worked very, very well. This was over ten years ago and I don’t think they make exactly what I bought anymore, but I was looking for another one last year for someone I know who was having neck trouble and I found what looks like an almost identical model on Amazon (but made by a different company). After reading reviews and doing more research, I came to believe that the device I have and the device I found on Amazon are both knock-offs of the “Acu-Massuer” which has good ratings but is kind of pricey. You might want to check that out as well as a knock-off called the “AccuMassage.”

Also, if you find trigger points in your scalp, I would recommend using your knuckles to massage them because if you use your fingers, that will place more strain on your arms and shoulders.

Anyway, hope that helps and I hope you feel better. xo
 

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i too have the worst headache.. migraine where tyenol advil or ibourfren dont work when it gets too bad i have a hot water boiled steam and put my face close to breath in out the steam and its weird but someone told me to massage my palm and be in dark room no phone no tv no noise or reading to relax ur mind for 30 minutes and drink warm soda for some caffine
 

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I was just talking with a friend today that I had recommended california poppy to. She said she is taking it and it mellows her out. She claimed to have no problems at all and is a MS sufferer. I think she is on more stuff I told her to take than what the doc gives her. My stuff works lol.

She uses the corydalis extract, glutamine for nerve pain, another thing I told her about for itching, goes by the name MYM, found it on ebay, theanine for relaxation. I keep trying to get her to go in for acupuncture but she said she was fine today.
 
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I was just talking with a friend today that I had recommended california poppy to. She said she is taking it and it mellows her out. She claimed to have no problems at all and is a MS sufferer. I think she is on more stuff I told her to take than what the doc gives her. My stuff works lol.

She uses the corydalis extract, glutamine for nerve pain, another thing I told her about for itching, goes by the name MYM, found it on ebay, theanine for relaxation. I keep trying to get her to go in for acupuncture but she said she was fine today.
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By no means am I suggesting that California Poppy tea is not worth trying. Just as a cautionary note, there are many sellers implying that is is the same as other poppy seed items. It does not have any of the “famous” medical properties of the other poppies. Of course it still might be very helpful, but if anyone is looking for the properties of other poppy’s, they are not part of Cali poppies.
 

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I have terrible migraines and have found that taking one Fioricet every morning actually is a fantastic preventative. My old doctor tripped over this solution years ago after I had a migraine that lasted over 21 days straight (I'd been having migraines of increasing length and severity for a while). Imitrex works for me too, but you can't take that much of it. I've tried practically everything on the market.

But one dose of Fioricet with my morning coffee and I rarely even get a migraine anymore. If I stop taking it, they come roaring back. Unfortunately, most doctors have since added Fioricet to their Naughty List, so good luck getting it legally.
 
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